Is Frontloading ON A First Cycle REALLY Necessary???

[Texas Ranger]

I had a guy tell me to frontload EQ@1200mgs & Test Enathate@600mgs for the first 2 weesk to get my blood levels up quicker!! I politely declined.:) Not knowing how my body would react to the Gear is my main concern(ie.anxiety, etc...). Plus it just seemed like overkill!!! Especially for my goals(10lbs of lean body mass with little to NO water retention). My cycle is pretty simple. Test Enanthate@300mgs & EQ@300mgs both for 12 weeks with Proviron@50mgs ED. I'm entertaining the "possibility" of frontloading the EQ@600mgs for the first 2 weeks, but not sure about it. Is frontloading on a First Cycle REALLY necessary???

[Stonecold54]

600 of eq isn't a frontload. Usually going above 1000mg for the first week is. but you are right there is no point for a first cycle. in fact you could drop the eq and still reach your goal and quite easily. you will probably overshoot 10 pounds even with just 300mg of test a week.

[joe bigboy]

i agree 300mg of test for 8 or 10 weeks will most likely get you that 10lbs

[DiamondCutCows]

In a word, is a frontload necessary?

NO

[Skyefire]

nope, front loading only gets you there faster. go read this: http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...threadid=15865

[slowpain]

I gained about 18 lbs on 500mg test Enan/ 400mg EQ for 8 weeks, gained alot of water though..

[psyko1]

Originally posted by slowpain
I gained about 18 lbs on 500mg test Enan/ 400mg EQ for 8 weeks, gained alot of water though..

that was my first and i loved it. i used letro and eca, so hardly any water at all. and isn't 300mgs of either too low even for a first cycle?

[Texas Ranger]

Just to put my stats ou there. I just finished dieting using only supplements(Ephedrine, Caffeine, Glutamine & BCAA's)and I'm down to 6'3" 225lbs and 8% bodyfat. I just finsihed reading Canadagold's post about "First Cycles" and using lower doses longer. Here's my revised cycle.

Test Enanthate@300mgs for 15 weeks
EQ@300mgs for 14 weeks
Proviron@25-50mgs ED throughout to stay dry, lean & hard

My goal is 235lbs and 7% bodyfat when all is said and done. I'm adding the EQ for the vascularity effect. What do you think, guys??

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by psyko1
that was my first and i loved it. i used letro and eca, so hardly any water at all. and isn't 300mgs of either too low even for a first cycle?

no not really. People think that it is just replacing the bodies natural test but if that was true I wouldn't have gained 20 pounds off taking 1 vial of sust per week in my first cycle (only lasted 4-5 weeks too). :D

[house1]

anything under 400mgs on eq is a waste imo--

300 mgs of test is fine

i would run the eq at 400 mgs , you can leave your test as is and no need to frontload bro-


do you have the proper pct needs!! make sure all is on hand before starting

[GearTripper]

Originally posted by DiamondCutCows
In a word, is a frontload necessary?

NO

well said.

[Texas Ranger]

So guys should I bump the EQ up to 400mgs for 14 weeks? Or leave at 300mgs? I'm not sure if the extra 100mgs would make a difference.:confused:

[DiamondCutCows]

Originally posted by Texas Ranger
So guys should I bump the EQ up to 400mgs for 14 weeks? Or leave at 300mgs? I'm not sure if the extra 100mgs would make a difference.:confused:

I've never used EQ (Out of my price range:( )
According to many on here 400-600 is the lowest they would ever go. I'd say up it to 400 with no FL.:)

[house1]

So guys should I bump the EQ up to 400mgs

yes

[Texas Ranger]

Cool. Ok, EQ@400mgs for 14 weeks & Enanthate@300mgs for 15 weeks should be good along with the Proviron should keep me dry & hard throughout. I know Bigpetefox & Stonecold like Proviron over Arimidex for a low dose Test cycle to stay lean & hard.