made winny in water and oil today.

[dbol]

I made winny in water with peg400 as the carrier and filtered. It looks exactly like the real stuff. milky white. shot 1cc in the delt with a 25g pin.

I also made a batch of winny in oil with peg and 3% ba that is supposed to be totally painless. I shot it in the other delt with a 25g pin- took some pushing but i got it in there.

I will let you know the results in two days and will post the recipes.

[candle25]

I plan on using PEG myself. Let us know how it goes.

[Skyefire]

let us know how that sup works for you. I am very interested.

[dbol]

I have another recipe that doesn't use peg as the carrier but uses ba,bb and ps80. That one is supposed to be the only sure way to make TNE at 100mg/ml with no pain. I will look it up and post it and give credit to the guy that I got it from.

[dbol]

ok here it is.
the left shoulder got winny is sterile water. The right shoulder got winny in oil.
The pain level is basically the same. The problem is that it was my first time injecting in the delts so i have nothing to base it on.
My shoulder does feel a little sore but I remember being on winny-v before and it would feel like I got hit with a baseball bat.
So I am going to say that it is probably less painful but it seems to be the exact same consistency. No clumps. white shit on the bottom of the vial with a layer of sterile water on the top. I shake it and it looks just like milk. I shot it through a 25g pin without even a little clogging so Im thinking....oh yeah!

This is for 20cc of 50mg/ml winny in sterile water. dont try more than this ammount as It has not worked well for me yet, if I get higher volumes to work I will post those directions later.

1 gram of winny powder.
3ml of peg 400
1ml of warmed ba
.45 filter (i know .20 is better but try getting peg to flow through it)
about 16ml of bacterialstatic water.

dissolve the winny in 2ml of pre-heated peg400 in a beaker set in a frying pan on simmer.
then once it is dissolved take the last 1ml of peg400 and wash the sides of the beaker with it by spraying the peg out of the syringe. (this removes the excess winny caked on the sides).
then swirl it arround to remove any left.
get it hot but not so hot that it starts to smoke.
Then let it cool for 5 minutes.
then sterile filter into a vial.
Then purge the filter with the warmed ba (microwaved it for 15 seconds in the same beaker that the winny was removed from to help get even more winny into the solution. warm up two cc's but only draw up one.)
Then draw up your sterile water with a seperate syringe and needle and let it slowly drop into the vial (should take about 10minutes to go through 16cc's)
I swirl the vial contents every 10 drops or so to keep it mixed well or it may clump on you in theory.
After the water is all in the winny you are done.
a couple of times I let the winny sit back in the frying pan during the water drop section. I have no evidence that this helps but I wanted to at least keep it moderately warm.
then sit back and enjoy the fact that you made your very own winny-v, and for less than 25 cents per cc!

[candle25]

I tried to use PEG 400/BA/BB and I couldn't get winny to fully dissolve. I heated and it didn't help. Here is what I came up with:

[Skyefire]

You dbol, this might be a good place for glycerol. Mix it 50/50 with the bio water. this might cut the pain somewhat.

[dbol]

Originally posted by Skyefire
You dbol, this might be a good place for glycerol. Mix it 50/50 with the bio water. this might cut the pain somewhat.

The pain was more a result of my first time ever doing shots in the delts.
I shot it in my glutes two days ago and can only barley tell that I had a shot, so I'll stick to the glutes, but thanks for the info I'll keep it in mind.

I did have a minor problem with the second batch. I made 50cc this time instead of 20cc and the particles in the end mix are slightly larger.....some salt sized. It was also much harder to filter the peg solution this time but I might have cooled it too much.

I have another recipe for winny-v with ba,bb and ps80 that I will try.

do you think peg200 would work better as far as the filtering?

[Skyefire]

it might. but if they're hot there isn't much differnce between the 200 and the 400.

[dbol]

i made a second batch of 50cc's and it didn't go as well.
Im not sure I am using enough peg in the mix. It is very difficult to filter even while hot. after it was finished there were sand size particles in the mix that wanted to clog a 25pin. would ps80 of helped keep the particles smaller, or do you think that I dropped in the water too fast?

[doodlebob]

I made TNE water suspension with BAC water, BB, BA, and polysorbate 80 and it looks beautiful. I filtered drop by drop into the water and swirrled after every ml. The problem I have been having is keeping the solution from crystalizing in the syringe and clogging my filter. I got this from I believe Pullinbig on steroidology board. This is what I used:
5g TNe
5ml BB
2.5ml BA
.75 Polysorbate 80
38ml BAC water

I just filtered the solution into the original Bac water plastic vial with 12cc water taken out of it. Looks damn good!

[Miracle Man]

Winny in water
New Method for making WATER based winny and test
Take some distilled water, and add 1-2% BA.

Add a surfactant to the water (polysorbate 80 and Carboxymethylcellulose both work well for this), and mix thoroughly.

Now take 7ml's of this, and run it through a .2um sterile syringe filter, into a sterile 10ml vial. Remove the filter and needles from the vial for now. You now have 7ml's of sterile water containing surfactant.

Now take 1 gram of either test base, or winny powder, and put it in a vial with 2 ml's of Animals super solvent. Heat it until it is completely dissolved.

Allow it to cool slightly, and draw it up in a 3cc syringe......now run this through a .45 sterile syringe filter, into the vial that contains the sterile water/surfactant.

Remove the filter and needles from the vial, and shake it up.

The test/winny will precipitate out in the water, but it has been micronized by running it through the filter, so this can easily be injected using a 25g needle.

This gives you a nice water based suspension......no clumps, no crystals.

Actually, you could also do this with your winny, and take it orally, and you wouldn't have the nasty everclear taste.