The easiest way isnt always the best right?

[Jorlen]

This forum hold so much knowledge, but its not easy to find what you are looking for.
I realise that most cycles are planned to be practical to carry out. But this has me wondering about what compromises that have been made.
I am not ready to learn how to make my own steriods. But with that excluded I can still control the levels of AAS in my blood with some accuracy (I hope). I need to know what to inject or swallow and when to do it.
To me its logical that you wanna keep the AAS levels in your blood at a constant level during a cycle. If desired effect is achieved best at a given level you wanna be at that level as much as possible, right?
So, how do I plan injections so I get the levels up there as fast as possible?
And also, when do I add more drugs to my body to keep the levels where I want them?

Just starting with an injection of 500mg of a AAS day 1, then same does every 7 days until the cycle is over cant possibly be the best way to keep the levels constant. Considering halflifes of different AAS.

Say the drug (testx) I wanna use has a halflife of 10 days. I start by injecting 1000mg day 1.
Obviously by day 10 I will have half that in my body.

With my knowledge it makes sense to inject enough testx to always have the same amount of the drug at all time in the body.

So if I decide I wanna keep close to 1000mg of test in my body at all time I could start with 1100mg first injection. Then every 3 days I inject 227mg more of testx. Then the amount of testx in the body would theoretically vary as follows if I keep injecting this 10 day halflife testosterone at 227mg every 3 days.
Day
0: 1100mg
1: 1018mg
2: 943mg
3:1100mg
4: 1018mg
5: 943mg
....
And it keeps going like that until you stop injecting every 3 days. Many injections. But not as much to inject on the other hand.

That makes alot more sense to me.
But I dont know if the halflife of a steriod is tightly bound the the levels of usable testosterone in the blood. If it isnt then what I wrote above wont do much good will it?

Am I right about the assumption that steady levels are better?
Am I right to use the halflife data to keep levels constant, or are there other important factors I dont know about?

I realise that if you keep same level of testx long enough the blood levels of usable testerone will eventually pan out on a steady level aswell.
How long does it take for my injection scheme to reach those steady testosterone levels, give or take a day or two?

The idea behind the questions I ask is that I wanna learn how to combine different test-esters to give me optimal control over testesterone levels in the blood, dyring a cycle.

Instead of using Sustanon or Omnadren I would prefer to choose the ester myself and also choose when to inject them. With the right experience and knowledge it should be possible to control this with great accuracy, right?

Thanks for taking the time to read all this.

[Stonecold54]

Lots of info that needs to be answered in your post. I understand that it isn't always easy but a good place to start is the anabolic articles and the profiles. You can learn pretty much anything in those two sections. To basically answer your question if you wanted the most stable blood levels with any drug, Everyday injections would be the best. If you want to increase your blood concentration the fastest then either front loading or fast esters would be best. Do some searches and also read some posts by skyefire in the chemistry section as a lot of his links are great for all around info.

[Jorlen]

This is by Skyefire on long ester AAS
long esters

He confirmed some of my thoughts for sure.

"Now as you can see this is a hell of a difference. No real ramp up time just the time it take for the body to respond. This is also a good way to get the test flu, so be forewarned."

Thats his comment about frontloading.
That makes me wonder, how common is it to experience the "test flu" when frontloading and when just doing normal cycles?

If you get test flu your first cycle ever, will your body get used to it so you are more tolerant to next cycle?

Of those who try frontloading how many prefer it to regular dosing?

In Skyefires example with frontloading he reaches target levels 2 weeks earlier compared to regular dosage. How significant is that counted in pounds of muscle?

[Stonecold54]

I think you are overcomplicating things. Would it be better to shoot everyday with a compound to keep blood levels more stable? yes. but is it going to be that much different than shooting once a week (for long esters)? Probably not. You are talking ounces of muscles not pounds.

an easier way to achieve faster levels for test is just shoot prop the first week or two. test flu in my opinion is not from test but from the BA. I never get test flu from my homebrew only with mex stuff and sust. even at that it should only last a few days at most.

[Skyefire]

Test flu isn't caused by BA. BA gets a bad rap regarding tren cough, test flu, injection pain, and other problems. This doesn't usulaly hold up to experaments though. Tren cough happens with out ba. Most shot are MORE painful with out the BA. BA get an unfair rap because at high levals (10% or more its painful). But in true unless your really dealing with crappy gear its not likely at fault.

The test flu may be cuased be many things but I believe with reason that it is the carboxylic acids that result from hydrolysis of the esterfied hormone. There is a lot of cercomstantual evedence to support this.

As for front loading, SC is right. your making this harder then it needs to be. The rules of thumb here are tried and true, Space your injections apart 1/2 of the half life. If the steriod has a 10 day half life then no further apart then 5 days. Prop is 4 days so EOD.

If you want front load then take the formula in the post and figure out how much you need in the first week to reach weekly advalable amount then just schedule regualer injections.

[GearTripper]

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[Jorlen]

I dont wanna complicate things. Just understand it all. I am curious by nature. :)
I wont be injecting anything this fall anyway, as I am more or less broke and looking for a job.
I guess the "test flu"-debate is still alive. I like to believe stonecold54. Hope you are right about that.

Thanks for the response.

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by Jorlen
I dont wanna complicate things. Just understand it all. I am curious by nature. :)
I wont be injecting anything this fall anyway, as I am more or less broke and looking for a job.
I guess the "test flu"-debate is still alive. I like to believe stonecold54. Hope you are right about that.

Thanks for the response.

unfourtionately is I happen to know that he uses high quality powders, hence no test flu. Exparements have been done (mostly regarding tren cough) that have ruled out anything but the raw powders themselves. Basically serval people made small batches of gear with certain ideams missing, one with no ba, one with no bb and so one.

while the actually mechanisium is not known for sure I can tell you the following:

1. high quality powder produce less of these side effects. high quality tren a is less likely to cause the tren cough and tren e it's almost none exsitant. low quality tren e is more likely to be painful then good USP grade. and so one.

2. The manafacturing process effects the amount of sides. things like using a BB/BA mixture instead of just BA, or not using heat in some types (hard to desove items sometime can be painful if not 100% in solution. This is why baking painful gear sometimes help redcue the pain, has nothing to do with sterlising it.) I would asume that it afects the test flu as well.

JMO