For anyone that homebrews

[Skyefire]

Would you be interested in a kit that would allow you to make you own cyclo bold, or any other steriod base in a cyclo-dextrin based solution?

Also would you want the kit to take care of the pellet conversion?

Edit : this is an injectable version.

[beefcake]

I'm guessing that many will want to know what the benefits of using a cyclo dextrin delivery method are over just the normal base. I know there's benefits sublingually and nasally, but intramuscularly? Let me know bro.

http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/ma...D=29&issueID=9

"Can I Inject?

I performed a little experiment with 4-androstenediol and HPBCD. I complexed some 4-Adiol with HPBCD as in example 1. I evaporated off some water until there was a 50mg/ml solution. This was sterile filtered this into a sterile vial and injected. These were the most painfree injections I have ever had with 4-Androstenediol. The cool thing about this formula is that it can be shot subcutaneously or intermuscularly, since it cannot crystallize and dissipates quickly because it is so water-soluble. Although I never tried, multiple daily shots would be needed to impart any kind of muscle building effect, and although you will never be limping because of a painful muscular injection, it would just be too much of a hassle. Another reason not to do this is because most HPBCD available is not endotoxin free, so you could be setting yourself up for a nice fever or illness, or possibly a very bad reaction that could cause death. That is always a good reason to avoid something."

[Skyefire]

Good point, thankyou beefcake. Also look at hitmansb QFS Cyclo-Bold journal http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...ht=%2Acyclo%2A

[Stonecold54]

shit I will try anything as long as it doesn't hurt too bad. LOL

[beefcake]

Originally posted by stonecold54
shit I will try anything as long as it doesn't hurt too bad. LOL

I don't even consider sub-q injects to be injects. Can't feel it even go in.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by beefcake
I don't even consider sub-q injects to be injects. Can't feel it even go in.

even better. that would be nice.

[Core]

Re: For anyone that homebrews

Originally posted by Skyefire
Would you be interested in a kit that would allow you to make you own cyclo bold, or any other steriod base in a cyclo-dextrin based solution?

Boy would I!

What exactly are you suggesting?

I've been considering purchasing some HPBCD from 1fast400, http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=459 and follow Dazed instructions to make cyclo-test. http://www.avantlabs.com/magmain.php...ID=9&pageID=29
From there add 2% BA, syringe filter and go.

There are 2 things that have been scaring me enough to keep me from doing so:

1fast400's 2.5% impurity rate for their HPBCD and Dazed comments about endotoxins in most sources of HPBCD.

The dictionary defines endotoxin as: A toxin produced by certain bacteria and released upon destruction of the bacterial cell.

If you did the aquaus cyclo-test production procedure with a slight amount of added BA, I wonder if that would reduce the endotoxin threat?

[Carlito]

hmm.... the BA may help.
Hey Sky I am interested in those kits, would it make a difference if taken orally(sublingual)? seems like is the same absortion and no need to worry about endotoxins.

Carlito

[hitmansb]

cyclodextrin products will go through a slin pin. It's slow as hell to draw up, but it's worth it...can't even feel the inject.

[Skyefire]

Re: Re: For anyone that homebrews

Originally posted by Core
Boy would I!

What exactly are you suggesting?

I've been considering purchasing some HPBCD from 1fast400, http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=459 and follow Dazed instructions to make cyclo-test. http://www.avantlabs.com/magmain.php...ID=9&pageID=29
From there add 2% BA, syringe filter and go.

There are 2 things that have been scaring me enough to keep me from doing so:

1fast400's 2.5% impurity rate for their HPBCD and Dazed comments about endotoxins in most sources of HPBCD.

The dictionary defines endotoxin as: A toxin produced by certain bacteria and released upon destruction of the bacterial cell.

If you did the aquaus cyclo-test production procedure with a slight amount of added BA, I wonder if that would reduce the endotoxin threat?

no, you need the good stuff. as I am seeing it is just too much money to make it worthwhile. thanks for everyones replies

[Mr I]

crikey, while you guys are in the kitchen can you russle me up some primo depot and tren deconoate? j/k