sus and testex cycle,need advise???

[Cmsmallzz]

Yeah just save it for another cycle. I'd just get rid of it personally...I am not a big fan of sust. Stick to the single esters from my experience.

[DiamondCutCows]

Originally posted by sandman
ok thanks.what about the sus could i not do 12 weeks on that?

You could, but I say save that and use the Testex!!!
If you run sust, maybe think about MWF or EOD injections

[Cmsmallzz]

the testex I've seen has had either a yellow ring and that's made by BYK, Spain...the other which I use has a white ring and is made by Altana Pharma S.A. Is Leo even a manufacturere anymore?

[sandman]

as im a novice could you explain mwf and eod,also on anabolic pics i have posted pics of my sus and testex,the testex has white stripe and didnt come in a box,they look exactly the same as ones erva posted above,could you look and give your opinion

[sandman]

i just looked my testex says altana pharma,so uyou say 500mg of that a week for 12 weeks?

[DiamondCutCows]

Originally posted by sandman
as im a novice could you explain mwf and eod,

Monday/Wednesday/Friday and Every Other Day (Because of the differring half-lives of the 4 esthers

[Cmsmallzz]

Bro it's tough to tell from the picture but I think the testex you have are real. I've never seen karachi sust before so I can't say anything on those. You know what I've seen work to spot fake amps is line them up on a table side by side. ll the amps and oil levels should be the same. Sometimes fake amps aren't made with the right equipment and they will be very off. I've seen this with fake schlering primo amps.

[sandman]

bottle says, ampolla inyectable 834184
de 2 ml
via intramuscular
testex elmu
prolongatum
ciclopentil propionato de
testosterona 250 mg
altana phara,s.a.
lote t 05 cad.:04/2008

[DiamondCutCows]

Originally posted by Cmsmallzz
Line them up on a table side by side. ll the amps and oil levels should be the same. Sometimes fake amps aren't made with the right equipment and they will be very off. I've seen this with fake schlering primo amps.

This is a popular method for the Primo, I know that.

[Cmsmallzz]

Samdman...I sent you a PM.

[GearTripper]

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[Doom]

Testex stopped producing about a year ago, good chance you may have some real ones, Sus is too damn cheap too bother to counterfit, so its highly unlikely

if your running a 12 week cycle
front load with the sustanon, 3 amps per week
mon/wed/fri
its a combo of 4 esters, propionate, phenylpropionate, isocaprioate, deconate
the first 2 are fast acting, the last two will take their time to build up in the blood stream, just as the Testex Cypionate will

although 1250mgs of test seems too be a lot first time around, the added 750mg is only for a short duration, 5 weeks of sustanon, along with the cyp, after the 5th week, drop the sus, and just use the cyp until the end

if its a 12 week run, you will begin PCT, on the 15th week
since you will be running a high dose of test in the begining, I suggest using an anti estrogen, arimidex, femera, armosain...all of these come in pill or liquid form, and some of the sponsors here carrying these chemicals, but they are intended for research use only ;)

I would use between .5ml-1ml depending on how your body responds, and after the sus is dropped, no more than .5ml, Arimidex, or its liquid counterpart Ldex, would be the best choice in the case, for PCT, Novladex, or Clomid should be used

good luck

[sandman]

thaks doom,so 3 amps sus for 5 weeks,then run with the testex,could you tell me when to start the testex and how many amps each week please?and also when to run the anti estrogen

cheers

[DiamondCutCows]

start the testex from the start and 2 shots of 250mg per week (monday/thursday) would be the way to go IMO:)

Boy is it nice seeing Doom around here more often again! He helped convince my wife the sauce wouldnt kill me!;)

[sandman]

can anyone else please give me some pct advise,ive been told its not that important but obviously it is,if i take clomid,how much do i need to take and for how long,i have decided to do 3 x sus shots a week for 12 weeks with testex for 5 weeks from weeks 6 -10