Series of Questions that needs an answer

[3rdCoast]

hey guys..i have a few questions,i will try to lay them out as simply as i can..answers on any would be great


1.on a cutting cycle using test E,would frontloading the first 2 weeks at 1000mg and then continuing at 400mg PW for 10 more weeks shut me down?like will the drop off do more bad than good?

2. during a 12 week cycle,what is the longest you should run t3?

3. is winny strong enough to preserve muscle while using t3 after you have come off of test?

4. is there a big difference between 4 weeks and 5 weeks of winny at the end of a cycle and is there a difference between 5 and 6?

These are all i could come up with at this time...any answers would be great..thanx to all that respond

[DiamondCutCows]

Re: Series of Questions that needs an answer

Originally posted by 3rdCoast
hey guys..i have a few questions,i will try to lay them out as simply as i can..answers on any would be great


1.on a cutting cycle using test E,would frontloading the first 2 weeks at 1000mg and then continuing at 400mg PW for 10 more weeks shut me down?like will the drop off do more bad than good?
*A*No it wont, but FL probably not necessary.

2. during a 12 week cycle,what is the longest you should run t3?
*A*I've never used it, but have heard 6 weeks at a time, followed by clen/ECA 2 on 2 off protocol.

3. is winny strong enough to preserve muscle while using t3 after you have come off of test?
*A*People will yell at me, but DBOL is the BEST Anti-catabolic drug out there besides GH and maybe Tren

4. is there a big difference between 4 weeks and 5 weeks of winny at the end of a cycle and is there a difference between 5 and 6?
*A*Dont get this question

These are all i could come up with at this time...any answers would be great..thanx to all that respond

[ryker77]

I'll answer the only question that I know leaving the T3? for those that have used it. Test Enathate used for more than 2 weeks will shut you done. So Test E used for 12 weeks will shut your HPTA down pretty good.

Yes you should front load the test E. you can use the http://www.come.to/roidcalc to see why front load is good.

So your going to take test E for 12 weeks then use only winny and T3 for another 4-6 weeks? total time 16-18 weeks

If you want to cut then you might should research Clen and/or tren.

[3rdCoast]

Originally posted by ryker77
I'll answer the only question that I know leaving the T3? for those that have used it. Test Enathate used for more than 2 weeks will shut you done. So Test E used for 12 weeks will shut your HPTA down pretty good.

Yes you should front load the test E. you can use the http://www.come.to/roidcalc to see why front load is good.

So your going to take test E for 12 weeks then use only winny and T3 for another 4-6 weeks? total time 16-18 weeks

If you want to cut then you might should research Clen and/or tren.

haha,nah man,i was gonna run test 1-12 and winny 9-14 and start pct right after..sorry for the misunderstanding.

and i was going to run t3/clen through out the cycle,cycling clen 2 on 2 off or 3 on 3 off the whole cycle,i just wanst sure on how to cycle t3 for best use.

i think i will frontload the test e,i might have some bloat but when all said and done i think it will benefit....and about the 4th question,I was just wondering if using winny for 4 weeks would be that much less effective then using it at 5 to finish a cycle..likewise with 5 vs 6 weeks...sorry for any confusion..thanx for the responses and keep them coming

[ROCKETW19]

you can run T-3 at 20mcgs all the way from begining till the end of your cycle or you can run it for no more than 6 weeks up to 120mcgs i usaly only go to 100mcgs but alot of people i know use more. if you decide on the 6 weeks you must pyrmid up and down slowly. you dont wanna fuck up your thryoid.

[3rdCoast]

Originally posted by ROCKETW19
you can run T-3 at 20mcgs all the way from begining till the end of your cycle or you can run it for no more than 6 weeks up to 120mcgs i usaly only go to 100mcgs but alot of people i know use more. if you decide on the 6 weeks you must pyrmid up and down slowly. you dont wanna fuck up your thryoid.

so if i go 6 weeks,how long do i need to take a break from it before i can go another 6 weeks or even 3?...would running it at 20mcg ED for 12 weeks work better in overall fat loss than the pyramid???thanx for responding Rocket..you always come through :agree:

[Cmsmallzz]

I'm not sure I would even run T3 with this cycle. Is your goal just to minimize the fat loss from bulking while on the test or is it to lose more BF than you already have? I don't think winstrol is strong enough to preserve muscle while on T3. I've used T3 for 6 weeks with a max dose of 100mcg along with 400mg EQ, 250mg Test E, and 50mg winstrol ED and still began to loose muscle to a degree. I had to lower the dose and I wasn't even on a strict diet. I've also tried T3 at similar doses while on a bulking cycle and saw next to no fat or muscle loss.

[3rdCoast]

my goal on the cycle is to lose bodyfat and maintain muscle,with 400mg per week and a frontload of 1000mg for 2 weeks hopefully i can maintain or maybe gain a little mittle of muscle..we will see...i am jus not sure how to cycle the clen/t3 while on the test and winny...if you are on t3 for 6 weeks,do you need 6 weeks off or would 2 weeks be fine?i have never used it before and dont wanna mess my thyroid up too much

[DiamondCutCows]

3rd, why not just use Clen/ECA for your first cut?

[Cmsmallzz]

Oh ok Bro, I was under the impression this was going to be a bulking cycle. With T3 after 6 weeks, your going to need at least an equal amount of time off. 2 Weeks is not enough. I like the suggestion that Diamond made about the clen/ECA rotation. That along with a solid diet plan will work great. I'm just not a fan of the thyroid hormones after using them unless your on GH and your need for them is increased. What is your diet going to look like?

[DiamondCutCows]

Originally posted by Cmsmallzz
I'm just not a fan of the thyroid hormones after using them unless your on GH and your need for them is increased.

:agree:

[3rdCoast]

Originally posted by Cmsmallzz
Oh ok Bro, I was under the impression this was going to be a bulking cycle. With T3 after 6 weeks, your going to need at least an equal amount of time off. 2 Weeks is not enough. I like the suggestion that Diamond made about the clen/ECA rotation. That along with a solid diet plan will work great. I'm just not a fan of the thyroid hormones after using them unless your on GH and your need for them is increased. What is your diet going to look like?

i guess because i am just greedy and want muscle and lose the fat...i dunno what i am gonna do...i might just run t3 for 6 weeks and use the clen/test/winny....i dont know what my diet is gonna look like..low bars and high protein of course...this cycle wont be until March or so after i take 3 months off of the cycle i am on now...i just like a solid 6 months of research on a cycle before i put anything in my body...so all the anticipation is all for not :(
thanx guys

[Doom]

T3 should be used for no more than 40-50 days...with a minimum of at least 8-10 weeks off to give the thyroid a chance to reboot itself..ramp up and down in the same fashion

the frontload of test e, isnt necessary, if you want a boost in test levels, prop is the way to go. start using the test e from the very beginning, along with the prop, some extra test isnt going to hurt.
winny is over rated in many senses, if you want a solid cutting drug with strength and lil too no size added, Tren is the way to go

the second you inject test, your body stops producing it, so ur shut down from the get go, the body feeds off what you put into it, PCt will be needed regardless

if this is too vague I can go into more detail, but I think I covered what you asked

[3rdCoast]

Originally posted by Doom
T3 should be used for no more than 40-50 days...with a minimum of at least 8-10 weeks off to give the thyroid a chance to reboot itself..ramp up and down in the same fashion

the frontload of test e, isnt necessary, if you want a boost in test levels, prop is the way to go. start using the test e from the very beginning, along with the prop, some extra test isnt going to hurt.
winny is over rated in many senses, if you want a solid cutting drug with strength and lil too no size added, Tren is the way to go

the second you inject test, your body stops producing it, so ur shut down from the get go, the body feeds off what you put into it, PCt will be needed regardless

if this is too vague I can go into more detail, but I think I covered what you asked

yeah,you covered what i asked..and i guess i made what "shutting down" meant in my eyes hard to see...i know you will need pct,i am on a cycle right now and i know what test can do to ya...i jus meant going from 1000mg to 400mg,would that be bad....since i dont have prop and cant get it...would a 15 week cycle of test E at 400 be better??and when i asked that on another board,some said to get hcg,would that be necessarry??