New Cycle/ Oct. Bound

[New_Mass]

Well here it is,

wks. 1-12 Test Cyp. @ 600mgs/wk (i like test in the system 1st)
wks. 2-6 Dbol @ 30mgs/ed
wks. 2-13 Deca @ 500mgs/wk
wks. 7-14 Winstrol @ 50mgs/eod
wks. 9-14 Proviron @ 50mgs/ed

Hcg @ 250ius/ nolva @ 20mgs if I feel needed throughout the cycle, if not

wks. 14-16 Nolvadex @ 20mgs/ed
wk. 15 Hcg @ 500ius/1st/2nd day, 250ius 3rd-5th day
wk. 15 Clomid @ 100mgs/ed for 10/dys. 50mgs/for 10 and 50mgs/eod for the last 10

This deca and test cycle is effective for me do to my intense proper training and diet being on point

Stats: 6ft. 230lbs, cycle history enough ,calorie consumption around 4000 during this mass phase which will be tapered off wk. by wk. during the cutting phase.

Please, any feed back is welcomed based on adjustments/add ins/ take aways etc..

[gearjunky]

I wouldn't do Hcg with all the clomid and nolva bro. might induce gyno

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by gearjunky
I wouldn't do Hcg with all the clomid and nolva bro. might induce gyno

clomid and novaldex fight gyno, you can't get it from taking it.

[gearjunky]

Originally posted by stonecold54
clomid and novaldex fight gyno, you can't get it from taking it.

I was assuming that doing hcg with clomid was a no no??
explain bro

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by gearjunky
I was assuming that doing hcg with clomid was a no no??
explain bro

clomid and novaldex are SERMs so that means that block the estrogen receptor in the breast tissue to stop gyno from forming. Clomid is much weaker than novladex as far as affinity per mg but they have the same relative action.

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by gearjunky
I was assuming that doing hcg with clomid was a no no??
explain bro

No, HCG can itself cause gyno so one of the serms should be used with it.

What you DON'T want to do is run HCG durring the PCT as it is by itself somewhat repressive/

HCG is best used as a preventitive drug, use durring the entire cycle.

[gearjunky]

Originally posted by stonecold54
clomid and novaldex are SERMs so that means that block the estrogen receptor in the breast tissue to stop gyno from forming. Clomid is much weaker than novladex as far as affinity per mg but they have the same relative action.

Cool thx i knew that.

[New_Mass]

Originally posted by rado
I would drop the d-bol. Good luck with it.

Why would you drop the dbol bro ?

[New_Mass]

Originally posted by rado
:confused: I would drop the d-bol. Good luck with it.

let me respond for you , Dbol stays bro. during bulking!

[therock]

Hell yeah stay w/ dbol bro. Dbol is the main ingredient for mass and strength! So tell that dude that said to not use to.....:pimpslap:

[house1]

i would run the hcg throughout other than that--looks good --have fun

[New_Mass]

Originally posted by rado
that's why you have the deca for mass and strength. why go through the bloat d-bol gives you(well deca will do the same).

If you want some strength, then take some tren for that matter, and with that you get good lean quality mass that you would have a better shot of retaining than d-bol.

I've tried d-bol before and hated the bloat and all the loss from it, that's why I stick with tren all the time now.

I'd rather do cycles with prop/eq/tren/test/halo/winny/primo of those type, NOT all at the same time, but mostly one's that don't give you that much bloat.

Read the post again, 2 phases to it,
Phase 1
More Size! Sheer Mass! Huge! is the 1st goal of this partial cycle here. Now i have a very fast metabolism bro. This is why I chose these compounds to use 1st, as far as the sudden lost after dbol, i normally still keep my calories high due to my metabolism which only rids the bloat I get. Now I didn't post the tren which is being used (along with other compounds) in the next phase of this cycle. Thanks for the input bro..