a little concerned here

[buccaneer19]

i'm a little concerned about a friend of mine. he had always worked out pretty hard, but he decided to take the plunge a little too early in my opinoin, but i'm not too sure he really understands the long term effect. Anyways check this out. He did FINA for the first cycle before he was even 18 years old and when he got off did no PCT and shrank back to his normal size. then he waited a few months, and got on the same thing again, then RIGHT when he got done he did a cycle of winstrol. NO PCT afterwards. been two months since he did that, now doin equipoise this time, and i'm sure with no PCT. guys, i don't know how to put it to him that he's screwing up because he'll think i'm tryin to sound like i know a lot more than him. What are his possible effects in the future for doing this?

[shortz]

Alot of wasted money...

It's hard to say really. Permanant side effects can be gyno, but it's not as likely with the things that he's using. It sounds like he isn't bright enough to realize that it can cause high blood pressure and that can have long term effects, but that can happen to any of us if we aren't looking out for it.

I have a friend who does the same thing. I asked him if he used anything for post cycle too and he said, "what do you mean?". Then, he goes on to tell me that you should taper doses at the end, then I KNEW he had no clue what he was talking about. Once I told him that tapering isn't effective, he stopped listening all together.

This same kid also thinks that 200mg of Eq per week is alot.

[buccaneer19]

let me ask you this, would a simple dose of 1 cc a week of test with PCT effect a mitral valve prolapse, (a common heart problem)

[Tiabin]

You're being vague. 1cc of what kind of test? How many mg per mL? Aside from that I'm pretty sure that the studies on the effects of test. on the heart are neither here nor there.

[Cmsmallzz]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
let me ask you this, would a simple dose of 1 cc a week of test with PCT effect a mitral valve prolapse, (a common heart problem)

Check with a doctor on this one Bro. I dont know if anyone here is qualified to answer this question.

By the way almost everyone I know around my parts that does juice has no clue what they are doing. I'm talking guys that have 10 years under their belt of cycles with no PCT, they think winstrol is the best fat loss drug on the market, do a kit of GH here, a kit there but never stay on the stuff long enough for it to have effect. Every year they just fluctuate between the same wieghts and never truely get bigger. As a matter of fact this guy today was trying to tell me that the way to do GH is 25iu's per day for 5 days and then a month off. LOL I could go on for hours but it will just get me irritated.

[buccaneer19]

QV Enanantat 250. Keep in mind none of this is for me, i've been around the board long enought to at least know that.

[buccaneer19]

didn't mean to come off as an idiot there guys, sorry

[Chadd77]

Tell your friend to come to SM and ask questions. We are here to help!

[Lmg2701]

Stuborness can often be a huge downfall. Tell your friend the side effects of using AS at an early age. There's a long list of them. Any search could help you find that. You have to understand too that some people just don't listen even when you're trying to help them. Like chad said, tell him to come here for himself and ask some questions.

[therock]

Man he needs to contact us somehow quick bro. This guy needs to be schooled b4 he hurts himself unless he already did. Tell him to go to your house and let him read these posts himself on your computer. Then he might listen.