I have a random like question here and i know it is different for everyone...BUT which week did you notice the biggest size increase on your first cycle..mine is test enan at 600mg EQ 400mg EW(just to give you an idea at what i am doing) i am heading into week 8 and i was wondering how much you gain on the last 3 weeks,if diet and training are in order of course...thanx guys
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for me i think it was around wk6 or so,
the point were you are at right now is were many ppl sell themselves short in their cycles IMO
im sure you have gained a good amount of weight at this point with that in mind you must also raise you caloric intake to match your new bodyweight to keep the gains coming, do this for the last 3wks and throughout PCT and im sure the end results will be much better
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thanx guys...yeah i feel like i am falling short,but i do notice a lot more definition and size in my back and chest..i guess i jus had expectations goin in my first cycle,but i am pretty happy,and i am taking 10mg nolva/.25 adex per day so i think what i see is what i will get,not a lot of water..so that will be good...thanx for the input,keep it coming and i will try to kick up the calories
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yeah,it prolly is a little bit over kill,i will stop running it but i did it not knowing what to expect when i got on...i didnt wanna get too big..but i now know not to worry,my next cycle it wont happenOriginally posted by DiamondCutCows
Nolva and Dex for a Test/EQ cycle? Isnt that a bit overkill? Im a fan of bloat BTW. I think the water promotes some strength, which in turn could promote new muscle tissue.:agree:
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Noticed major strength gains beginning the 4th week, but size was 6-8....Skyfire-correct me if I'm wrong, but you reach some of the highest concentration levels during this time; the biggest jumps in saturation are between 4-8 weeks and then slow increases after that, since your levels are so high already...
My first cycle was, 20 mgs of STOP SIGNS ED (4 tabs) and 250 mg Enanthat once a week...good gains, good aggression, and a libido to practice inpregnation for the entire westcoast..
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Clen-do you know anything about Zaditen/Ketofin? Taking 1-2mgs of Zaditen per day while on clen will allow you to take clen everyday for nearly 12 weeks, instead of the two on, two off theory. I have some documentation on it if you want me to talk to a MOD about posting it. Zaditen is F'ing cheap too....Originally posted by 3rdCoast
haha nice cousin...thanx for all the input..i am starting week 8,so we will see how the progress goes...i got clen on the way to do a short 3 weeker of,then hit the pct and creatine until christmas time...thanx for all the help
DS
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Originally posted by DS-COUSIN
Clen-do you know anything about Zaditen/Ketofin? Taking 1-2mgs of Zaditen per day while on clen will allow you to take clen everyday for nearly 12 weeks, instead of the two on, two off theory. I have some documentation on it if you want me to talk to a MOD about posting it. Zaditen is F'ing cheap too....
DS
i would love to hear about it or where it could be found ;) i have never heard of it..does it let you take clen for 12 weeks even at a high dosage?
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What do you mean higher dosages? 8 tablets? 12 tablets? 6 tablets? If you are taking higher dosages to get the same effect, then it is because of the (i believe, have to consult my info.) down regualtion of the beta-2 recepters. How I understand it, you can take a gazillion clen, but the diminishing marginal utility theory still exists, especially if the beta-2 recepters are not recovering from the usage of clen, hence two-on-two-off protocol.Originally posted by 3rdCoast
i would love to hear about it or where it could be found ;) i have never heard of it..does it let you take clen for 12 weeks even at a high dosage?
I'll get the information for you on Ketofin/Zaditen sometime this week. Classes are killing right now, so it's going to be tough, it might have to wait until this weekend...
DS
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