HCG-ordering now, questions....

[wheyman]

Just ordered some HCG, 1500iu 1ml x 5...

Have a few questions, what size insulin pins do I need to order?

Where is HCG injected and how do you measure 250iu's in a insulin pin? I'm new to HCG so I know nothing about it..

By the way, I will be running 500mg of test en and 400mg of eq for 12 weeks. Plan on running HCG throughout whole cycle at 250iu's twice a week. Two to three weeks after my last injection I will begin with either clomid or nolva.

[Stonecold54]

Re: HCG-ordering now, questions....

Originally posted by wheyman
Just ordered some HCG, 1500iu 1ml x 5...

Have a few questions, what size insulin pins do I need to order?

Where is HCG injected and how do you measure 250iu's in a insulin pin? I'm new to HCG so I know nothing about it..

By the way, I will be running 500mg of test en and 400mg of eq for 12 weeks. Plan on running HCG throughout whole cycle at 250iu's twice a week. Two to three weeks after my last injection I will begin with either clomid or nolva.

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...&highlight=HCG

This is your own thread by the way.

[wheyman]

Yeah, I was just reading it...Forgot about that post, most of my questions were answered in that post except how to convert measure iu's.

this whole hcg thing is very confusing to me. Especially when it comes to mixing stuff, that isn't my thing. I'm afraid I will do something wrong. It's like you have to be a chemist to do this crap.:mad:

[wheyman]

I think I need a "Mixing and preparing HCG for dummies" book..:)

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by wheyman
Yeah, I was just reading it...Forgot about that post, most of my questions were answered in that post except how to convert measure iu's.

this whole hcg thing is very confusing to me. Especially when it comes to mixing stuff, that isn't my thing. I'm afraid I will do something wrong. It's like you have to be a chemist to do this crap.:mad:

don't use the insulin needles then. just shoot IM and make it simple. a little basic math skill is needed to understand the strength of your solution. but all you are doing is adding water to a powder and making a certain conc.

[DangerousGround]

1,500 iu lits are low dose of hcg. Good for weekly Im injects of 500 iu thou if use like Swales method for using throught whole cycle. It only lasts about 6 weeks when mixed in fridge.

I try to get at least box of 3, 5000iu kits or (15,000 iu total) at one time.

[wheyman]

I noticed at the end of the message it says that there are some sterility issues after being mixed...What is that all about?

How long does the HCG last before it is mixed?

[Skyefire]

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a glycoprotein hormone that is produced from a sterile preparation of placental glucoprotein urine of expectant women. In other words it is an extracted out of piss. This is a must have in any long cycle or cycles with highly suppressive gear (Nandrolone Decanoate, Trenbolone and the like). Its main function is to prevent/reverse testicular atrophy cause by the suppression of the HTPA and the Leydig cells by mimicking the leutenizing hormones. In plan English it keeps your boys both happy and large. It does NOT reverse the suppression of testosterone production but use of HCG will speed up the process considerable. A full PCT routine is still necessary though. Again HCG is best used in a preventative manner.

To reconstitute HCG you must mix it with bacteriostatic water. How this is package depends on what brand your are buying. The most common is a 5,000iu amp that must be mixed and placed in a new separate sterile vial (we don’t use all of it at once). It usually comes with a vial of about 1 to 1.5 cc of bacteriostatic water. It also comes as two vials, one vial with no water. There is a 1500iu versions of the above as well. When mixing your HCG remember that is the stated shelf life is 8 weeks (60 days), it will last longer, maybe up to 16 weeks but it will louse potency. A good rule of thumb is not to mix up any more then you want to use for 8 to 10 weeks. If that isn’t available then increase the dosage as the cycle progress to compensate (note: not everyone agrees that this is an acceptable practice, you will have to use your own judgment here.). Please note that ancillaresearch.com HCG comes in increments of 1mg, 2.5mg, 5mg and 10mg. That is 3,359iu, 8,397.5iu, 16,795iu, and 33,590iu.

Directions. This is my method of doing this so other may differ but this I think is the most accurate and simplest way of doing this. First make sure you have your supplies ready, you need one 5 or 10ml vial, at least 2ml of bacteriostatic water for 5,000iu or 1ml for ever 2,500iu you have, one regular sterile syringe with needle (20 to 25 gauge 1 inch is fine), a file for scoring the amp, alcohol swabs, and some sterile gauze (I am retentive about being sterile, a clean cloth would work). First use the alcohol swabs to clean off top of your vial and amp. Take your file and use around the breaking point on the neck until you have worked 360 degrees around it. Wipe again with the alcohol pad and wrap the top with the gauze (this keeps you from cutting yourself) and break the amp. Take your syringe and draw up 1cc of bacteriostatic water (make sure you wiped the top of the vial with alcohol) and inject it into the amp. Do not let the needle get dirty. Gently swirl the water around until all the powder is dissolved. Use the same syringe and suck up all the HCG solution and inject it into the sterile vial. Then using the same syringe draw up another cc of bacteriostatic water and inject it into the amp again. Swirl the water around for a minute then draw it all up and inject it into the sterile vial. You now have your solution made at 2,500iu per milliliter. This is convent because 250iu is easily measured by the 10iu mark on a insulin syringe. To change the concentration simple adjust the amount of water. For instance if you wanted 250iu for each .25cc then you would use 5ml of water.

If you have your HCG in vials then odds are it will hold 2cc so the above is unnecessary. Simple inject 2cc of the bacteriostatic water into the vial (making sure that you clean the tops with alcohol).

To reconstitute HCG from ancillaresearch.com you can ether use the vial it came in for the smaller amount or a new vial (recommended.) For 1mg you would add 1.34cc to make 2,500iu per ml (250iu per 10 clicks on an insulin syringe). For 2.5mg you would add 3.34ml of water to make 2,500iu per ml. For 5mg 6.7ml of water. For 1mg at 250iu per .25cc you would add 3.36ml of water. 2.5mg would need 8.4ml of water and so on.

Here are some sample ways that HCG should be ran. For a light cycle (no more then ten) weeks with moderate suppressing steroids HCG is not really needed. If you want to use HCG anyway (doesn’t hurt) or are running longer then 10 weeks or using suppressive steroids 250iu of HCG can be ran twice a week for the last ten weeks ending just before you start you PCT routine. This will speed recovery. If your using suppressive gear for longer then ten weeks then 2 amps (10,000iu) is recommended. Then you can run e 250iu 3 times a week for the last 13 weeks ending on your start of PCT. Or you can run it 250iu twice a week from the beginning of the cycle switching to 3 time a week at the point that you can use the remaining HCG supply up just before your PCT. For example, if your running a cycle for 14 weeks you could run the HCG at 250iu 3 times a week starting week 3 and ending week 15, just before you start PCT week 16. Or you could run 250iu twice a week for weeks 1 to 4, then 3 times a week for weeks 5 to 15. This way you use up all your HCG (no waste).