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I am currently on week 4 of a dbol/test-e cycle (12 weeks) I have already decided the dbol was bunk (liquid form) because I have yet to gain more than 3 lbs. I gained 12 on 2 weeks on M1T ffs. I think I feel the test kicking in because I got test flu this week and it subsided after 3 days and I am beginning to feel the test, however still no weight gain. I have been eating like a horse (5+ meals a day: eggs, brown rice, baked potatos, steaks protien shakes, pwo shakes) and working out sometimes twice a day with intensity like never before. I have also completely cut out my partying and haven't drinken in three weeks. For some odd reason I will wake up at 201-202 eat a few meals, go about my day and become about 207 then go to sleep at around 208ish. Then wake up again the next morning being around 201 get of the scale punch the wall very hard then go back downstairs to eat again. I don't understand how I could gain 12 lbs of lean mass on 6 weeks of fina and 12 lbs of mass/water on m1t/4-ad yet not gain shit on this. The dbol I got was from someone who makes liquid dbol and sells it for a great price, obviously you get what you pay for as the shit has done absolutley nothing for me. Hopefully it didn't even have any powder in it so I can just do M1t without damaging my liver. Maybe the test-enth will start to kick ass next week?!?!
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Re: No gains so far?!
weight from morning till night can fluctuate as much as 6-8 pounds so that is normal. don't know what to say about the dbol. what type of test are you taking? what number cycle is this for you or is it your first? do you have a total caloric breakdown for your meals?Originally posted by Rictor33
I am currently on week 4 of a dbol/test-e cycle (12 weeks) I have already decided the dbol was bunk (liquid form) because I have yet to gain more than 3 lbs. I gained 12 on 2 weeks on M1T ffs. I think I feel the test kicking in because I got test flu this week and it subsided after 3 days and I am beginning to feel the test, however still no weight gain. I have been eating like a horse (5+ meals a day: eggs, brown rice, baked potatos, steaks protien shakes, pwo shakes) and working out sometimes twice a day with intensity like never before. I have also completely cut out my partying and haven't drinken in three weeks. For some odd reason I will wake up at 201-202 eat a few meals, go about my day and become about 207 then go to sleep at around 208ish. Then wake up again the next morning being around 201 get of the scale punch the wall very hard then go back downstairs to eat again. I don't understand how I could gain 12 lbs of lean mass on 6 weeks of fina and 12 lbs of mass/water on m1t/4-ad yet not gain shit on this. The dbol I got was from someone who makes liquid dbol and sells it for a great price, obviously you get what you pay for as the shit has done absolutley nothing for me. Hopefully it didn't even have any powder in it so I can just do M1t without damaging my liver. Maybe the test-enth will start to kick ass next week?!?! -
Working out twice a day is a no no if you trying to put on size. Get in the gym 45min-1 hour a day and get out. You say your eating like a horse but only eating things like eggs, protein shakes and steak. You need to stop over training and eat more cals.
Also, what type of dbol is it? If its Reforvit-B it is not fake.Comment
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The test should start kicking in anytime from now to maybe next week. Depending on your diet, training, dosage, and prior cycle history you could definitely make some decent gains over the remaining six weeks.Comment
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You should have gained at least more than 3lbs in water if the d-bol was real...what was the dosage you were taking of the d-bol? I can tell you this...I know several guys who have tried liquid d-bol from reputable labs, whose injectables were second to none, that have believed it to be worthless. Just out of curiosity, what UG lab was it?Comment
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I am taking zencall test-enth 250 and it's working atleast it feels like it is, my intensity is up and my strength and moods are up as well. My previous cycle was fina/low-test (250mg/week) and that worked out very well. The dbol was not reforvit-b, a certain guy makes a liquid form of dbol which just didn't do shit for me. it looked legit and I have even read of this guys stuff working very well for people, I don't know what the hell it is, but it sure as hell did nothing for me.....Comment
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And when I said I was going to the gym 2x a day it was never two full workouts, It would be like me doing chest and my shoulder hurting so I would leave and come back when I had time later that night to finish up the other bodypart I was planning on doing.Comment
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lol I was taking the dbol at 50mg/day as well. 25mg 2x a day. So obviously it was bunk because thats my 1st experience with dbol, however I have had previous experience with M1T which is also a powerful methylated oral steroid so I figured that I would have the tollerance to take 30mg. So I took 30mg for the 1st 2 weeks expecting some type of crazy gains, but nope, nothing. So I raised it to 50 for the fuck of it and it still didn't do shit I will pm you what lab.Comment
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ok this is bullshit..... I mean I am not supposed to be expecting any type of hardcore weight gain yet and I know this, but I went to sleep at 205.5 after eating 4600 cals yesterday and I woke up this morning at 198.5. I really don't understand what the hell is going on here, last night I felt the test really big time, all my muscles felt and looked blown up, I even got comments on it. Do I need to stop trying to clean bulk and just get fucking fat to keep weight on? I don't understand this......Comment
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Maybe your scales are crap.....Originally posted by Rictor33
ok this is bullshit..... I mean I am not supposed to be expecting any type of hardcore weight gain yet and I know this, but I went to sleep at 205.5 after eating 4600 cals yesterday and I woke up this morning at 198.5. I really don't understand what the hell is going on here, last night I felt the test really big time, all my muscles felt and looked blown up, I even got comments on it. Do I need to stop trying to clean bulk and just get fucking fat to keep weight on? I don't understand this......Comment
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by the sounds of it, i think you got the same scale as me bro :(Comment
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Originally posted by Rictor33
ok this is bullshit..... I mean I am not supposed to be expecting any type of hardcore weight gain yet and I know this, but I went to sleep at 205.5 after eating 4600 cals yesterday and I woke up this morning at 198.5. I really don't understand what the hell is going on here, last night I felt the test really big time, all my muscles felt and looked blown up, I even got comments on it. Do I need to stop trying to clean bulk and just get fucking fat to keep weight on? I don't understand this......
Like FACE said bro, could be the scale.
Thats happend to me on the summer. When I was on cycle and the job place had a scale. I started at 210 and for weeks it said 210. I went to this new store here in the city and got on an Electronic Scale and I was amazed how much I had put on. It read 224 at the time. I was like fuck the other scale, was gonna give up the cycle thinking i had fake gear and the diet was high too.
So also could be the scales or either fake gear. But somethings wrong:(Comment
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I used Reforvit-B and lost weight while on it as well....of course that could have been because I didnt know what the fuck I was doing either. I was on like an 8 week cycle and at the end I deemed the shit "totally worthless" . Again, this most likely was a case of "operator error".Comment
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i love Reforvit-B:)Comment
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haha I wish it was the scale. But when you get on 2 of the same-type which weighed you in at as high as 221 before then go to the docs and get about 204-205.5 (mid-day) then you know it doesnt lie. It's week 5 starting now, I am up to 750/week, I have all the proper ancilliaries (obviously) so I think more will be better. I am looking much more vascular and feeling great, haven't noticed much estro-bloat yet however, which I think is about to change this week. I hate how girls I know tell me if I get any bigger I won't be attractive anymore, that shit is beginning to piss me off. Im 6' 204 with above 12% bodyfat, im not BIG GODDAMNIT...... Anyway I was also thinking about taking a low dose of t3 for 2 weeks during sometime like week 7-9 during the cycle when everything is full-bore. I heard from many people 12.5mcg is a good dose to cruise at to keep the bodyfat down while on test. Let me know what you guys think.....Comment
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