To thebandplays on - My advice to you is to go natural. It seems that one of the main problems you are having is that your Metabolism is HIGH. In years past, many trainers tried this to pack on muscle on their boys: Watch your calories for a few days - say about 1800 for 3-5 days to bring down your metabolism. When you eat less, your body looses weight immediately then realizes that you are starving it so it shuts down its metabolism. When you achieve this, hit the protein and get the calories up. Your young so grab 3500 to 4000 or more. Try to get 2 grams of protein for 1 lb of your body weight. Also , listen to what they others are saying and take a rest. If your gonna do a stack, think long and hard, then do it right. I suggest stacking - you know what, just eat and piss on screwing your system up.
God Bless
God Bless

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