Help - cyp is crashing

[Curls4dGirls]

OK - here's where I am:

38 ml of 400 mg / ml test cyp at 5% BA and 15% BB. Will hold while warm, but crashes when it cools.

Thoughts?

[Skyefire]

First do a melting point test and make sure that you have test cyp. all the powders look alike so that is the only way to know for sure. after that try baking it. But 400mg/ml should hold

[Curls4dGirls]

Tried the melting point test before conversion, and it came out dead on.

Would it be OK to warm it up, then inject while its suspended?

[Skyefire]

no, bake then see if it will stay in solution. 400mg/ml cyp should not crash.

[Curls4dGirls]

Baking it worked. Thx bro.

Here's what I did.

1. Vented vial w/ 23g pin
2. Preheated oven to 250
3. Baked vial on cookie sheet for 15 mins
4. Let cool for 1 hr
5. Repeated steps 2 and 3

It's been about 4 hours, and it's still clear.

[Curls4dGirls]

So, after baking the cyp last week, everyting looked good. I even vigorously shook the bottle to make sure it would hold. I took a shot of the cyp this Monday. First, I loaded 1 cc of 300 mg EQ into the syringe, then I pulled 1 cc of the cyp into the same syringe. Everything still looked good. When I looked at the cyp tonight, it was solid ... crash.

any ideas?

[jipped genes]

it shouldnt crash with 5% ba. you may add a little more BA. i wouldnt wanna do it but it may keep it from crashing. did it hurt when you shot?

4% BA worked fine for me with no probs and no BB. wonder if its the powder?

[Curls4dGirls]

I cut it with 1 cc of 300 mg EQ and 1 cc of 100 mg deca. Neglible pain.

Melting point test was on target. However, others using this same powder are having problems getting it to hold ... even at concentrations as low as 250 mg / ml. They are using the "heat and shoot" technique and getting good results.

It's been a couple hours since I rebaked, and it still nice and clear. Could it have something to do with the pressure of the vial?

[GIJoe]

Originally posted by Curls4dGirls
...

It's been a couple hours since I rebaked, and it still nice and clear. Could it have something to do with the pressure of the vial?

I believe vial pressure is lower than atmospheric if you are pulling the venting needle out while solution is still hot (meaning there is vacuum in the vial until you use it because of heat expansion). Vacuum lowers melting point and boiling point, and I would think this would be more likely to keep the hormone from crashing, but just a guess.

[newmass]

the pressure should have no effect on the soulability of the cyp.
how many ml's of solution are in your vials.... let me know and i can give you an easy solution to your problm

[Skyefire]

It sounds like a problem with the powder(a lot of base or something in it. cutting it with your EQ is probably the best way to go here. I would not add any more solvent. If any thing mix it togather in a vail with some EQ to thin it down. I am wondering about the powder.

[Curls4dGirls]

I had to bump the dose to 1600 mg / wk before I really felt it. Probably an issue with the powder.

[Skyefire]

Thats sounding like some cut it with somthing. (given the price of test cyp I don't know why but that what its sounding like)

[Spyder]

just add a second ester to it such as enathate and reheat they will binde and it should hold

[spidey]

Originally posted by Spyder
just add a second ester to it such as enathate and reheat they will binde and it should hold

??????

No chemical reaction is going to happen here. Are you saying the enanthate will serve as a co-solvent?

His test cyp is suspect. Real test cyp is more soluble than that. Plus, he says he had to take some huge amount (1600 mg) to feel it kick in. It is likely his test cyp has been cut with something or isn't test cyp in the first place.

Take a melting point and see what you get. That will tell you if it is pure test cyp or not.