Things seem to have changed so much from the last time I did anything. Where can I find the best information on Hgh. Thanks
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In the world of Growth Hormone research you could spend hours upon hours wading through theories,anecdotal evidence,and useless gibberish to find your answers. I have done all of that for you.
TYPES:
The main brands that you will see today are:
SEROSTIM--made by Serono,this used to be the most popular GH out.It comes in a "kit" which consists of 7 bottles. Each bottle is 18iu. This gives the total of 126iu. Each bottle has a small disk of powder in it,which when turned upside down,will remain as a disk.If there is no disk then it is fake.
EUROTECH-- this particular brand is considered an underground GH supposedly out of Germany. Again,the GH is shipped in a "kit" consisting of 120iu. The disk is very hard to see because the bottle is almost always caked with powder. This is probably the most unstable of all of the growth hormones on the market. Unless it is shipped overnight with a cold pack that stays cold, it is useless. It degrades very quickly which means it probably consists of the 192 amino sequence.
JINTROPIN-- made by Genesci,this fairly new GH is by far the most potent of all. It comes in a kit consisting of 10 bottles. Each bottle is 10iu. This gives the total of 100iu. These bottles do not have a distinct disk but instead have a powder. The quality of the Jin is similar to that of Humatrope which is a very expensive American GH usually prescribed by physicians,and can cost 4 times that of Jintropin.
STORAGE: Most GH can handle being in room temperature for a week. It is recommended that it be refridgerated as soon as possible and kept refrigerated. The Eurotech brand cannot be kept at room temperature or it will be "biologically inactive".
H2O: when mixing your GH into a solution there are 2 types of water that can be used, sterile or bacteriostatic. Sterile water is usually sent with the GH kits and is meant to be used within a 48 hour period. Bacteriostatic water has a small amount of acid in it which allows the GH to be kept for a longer period of time. Simply put, the acid keeps the bond between the molecules more stable. The sterile water only will cause the bonds to weaken very quickly and become unstable.
DOSING: how do you figure dosing? First, an insulin pin which measures 1cc in graduated increments should be used. We will call each mark a "click". The syringe has 100 clicks.
SEROSTIM: every 5.5 clicks equals 1iu
JINTROPIN: every 10 clicks equals 1iu
All we do is take the total number of clicks(100) and divide it by the total iu in 1 bottle.This is assuming that 1ml of water is used per bottle. Any more dillutes it.
MIXING: when adding the water to the powder always release the water slowly and down the side of the glass. This will assure that the compound remains intact. GH by nature is fragile. Once the water is in gently swirl the solution. DO NOT SHAKE. Continue to swirl until all is dissolved.
WHERE TO INJECT: The most readily absorbed area is the inner thigh. This should be done subq. by pinching a small fold and injecting in the middle. I do not recommend the abdomen as the fat tends to slow absorption. GH can be injected anywhere subq.though.
LENGTH OF USE: Growth does not elicit results immediately. The time span involved to see results varies from 2 weeks to 3 months. The better matched compounds to human DNA(Jintropin) is much quicker than say the Serostim with regard to results. If you cannot stay on GH for at least 4 months dont waste your money. This usually requires about 4 kits,not cheap.
Result of well being, some lipolysis,improved skin appearance: 2iu daily
Moderate lipolysis, better sleep, more energy: 3iu daily
Begin to see fullness in the muscle,advanced lipolysis: 4iu daily
Muscular hypertrophy, feeling like a king, full as hell: 5iu daily
The above might be a little too simple but you get the picture. GH is a long term investment that can not be done half assed to see results.
WHEN TO TAKE: our natural GH levels are highest 2 hours after sleep and lowest in the morning. Since we want to take advantage of both natural and exogenous GH, it is best to take half in the morning upon waking and the other half between post workout and sleep. The second best would be to take it all in the morning.
Never take GH close to bed,as that will eventually downgrade the natural production. We want to take advantage of all the IGF that we can.
I hope this helps. It is oversimplified but this method comes from not only research but trial and error and it works.
-superhvyfrk
superhvyfrk, mod here and at my board. National competitor, has a degree in biology and is about two eyelashes from a procard.
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serono serostim..
Originally posted by pudgy
In the world of Growth Hormone research you could spend hours upon hours wading through theories,anecdotal evidence,and useless gibberish to find your answers. I have done all of that for you.
TYPES:
The main brands that you will see today are:
SEROSTIM--made by Serono,this used to be the most popular GH out.It comes in a "kit" which consists of 7 bottles. Each bottle is 18iu. This gives the total of 126iu. Each bottle has a small disk of powder in it,which when turned upside down,will remain as a disk.If there is no disk then it is fake.
EUROTECH-- this particular brand is considered an underground GH supposedly out of Germany. Again,the GH is shipped in a "kit" consisting of 120iu. The disk is very hard to see because the bottle is almost always caked with powder. This is probably the most unstable of all of the growth hormones on the market. Unless it is shipped overnight with a cold pack that stays cold, it is useless. It degrades very quickly which means it probably consists of the 192 amino sequence.
JINTROPIN-- made by Genesci,this fairly new GH is by far the most potent of all. It comes in a kit consisting of 10 bottles. Each bottle is 10iu. This gives the total of 100iu. These bottles do not have a distinct disk but instead have a powder. The quality of the Jin is similar to that of Humatrope which is a very expensive American GH usually prescribed by physicians,and can cost 4 times that of Jintropin.
STORAGE: Most GH can handle being in room temperature for a week. It is recommended that it be refridgerated as soon as possible and kept refrigerated. The Eurotech brand cannot be kept at room temperature or it will be "biologically inactive".
H2O: when mixing your GH into a solution there are 2 types of water that can be used, sterile or bacteriostatic. Sterile water is usually sent with the GH kits and is meant to be used within a 48 hour period. Bacteriostatic water has a small amount of acid in it which allows the GH to be kept for a longer period of time. Simply put, the acid keeps the bond between the molecules more stable. The sterile water only will cause the bonds to weaken very quickly and become unstable.
DOSING: how do you figure dosing? First, an insulin pin which measures 1cc in graduated increments should be used. We will call each mark a "click". The syringe has 100 clicks.
SEROSTIM: every 5.5 clicks equals 1iu
JINTROPIN: every 10 clicks equals 1iu
All we do is take the total number of clicks(100) and divide it by the total iu in 1 bottle.This is assuming that 1ml of water is used per bottle. Any more dillutes it.
MIXING: when adding the water to the powder always release the water slowly and down the side of the glass. This will assure that the compound remains intact. GH by nature is fragile. Once the water is in gently swirl the solution. DO NOT SHAKE. Continue to swirl until all is dissolved.
WHERE TO INJECT: The most readily absorbed area is the inner thigh. This should be done subq. by pinching a small fold and injecting in the middle. I do not recommend the abdomen as the fat tends to slow absorption. GH can be injected anywhere subq.though.
LENGTH OF USE: Growth does not elicit results immediately. The time span involved to see results varies from 2 weeks to 3 months. The better matched compounds to human DNA(Jintropin) is much quicker than say the Serostim with regard to results. If you cannot stay on GH for at least 4 months dont waste your money. This usually requires about 4 kits,not cheap.
Result of well being, some lipolysis,improved skin appearance: 2iu daily
Moderate lipolysis, better sleep, more energy: 3iu daily
Begin to see fullness in the muscle,advanced lipolysis: 4iu daily
Muscular hypertrophy, feeling like a king, full as hell: 5iu daily
The above might be a little too simple but you get the picture. GH is a long term investment that can not be done half assed to see results.
WHEN TO TAKE: our natural GH levels are highest 2 hours after sleep and lowest in the morning. Since we want to take advantage of both natural and exogenous GH, it is best to take half in the morning upon waking and the other half between post workout and sleep. The second best would be to take it all in the morning.
Never take GH close to bed,as that will eventually downgrade the natural production. We want to take advantage of all the IGF that we can.
I hope this helps. It is oversimplified but this method comes from not only research but trial and error and it works.
-superhvyfrk
superhvyfrk, mod here and at my board. National competitor, has a degree in biology and is about two eyelashes from a procard.
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bro just so you know, Eurotech, never existed, and it was GH, but it was shipped here from asia, and rebottled here in the US, the same people that brought you fake Serostim, are the same guys that came up with thisOriginally posted by ROCKETW19
eurotech is the name of the maker the product is called somaject it is made in germany 191 amino not 192 it is also 126ius per kit 6 bottels powder 2 bottles b-water. IMO very good product.
they were busted long ago
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yes about a year ago never knew it was from aisa but still a good product!Originally posted by Doom
bro just so you know, Eurotech, never existed, and it was GH, but it was shipped here from asia, and rebottled here in the US, the same people that brought you fake Serostim, are the same guys that came up with this
they were busted long ago
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Yeah Bro, Doom is right...the guys were buying the raw materials from China then packaging it in the midwest US, forget what state, and calling it German GH. They were busted a while back. Some poeple did like the product but I've never done is so who knows.Originally posted by ROCKETW19
eurotech is the name of the maker the product is called somaject it is made in germany 191 amino not 192 it is also 126ius per kit 6 bottels powder 2 bottles b-water. IMO very good product.
Doom, I didn't know these were the same guys that brought fake Serostim. I remember seeing those kits...They had no hologram and the powder inside was loose. The guys selling them swore that the kits had no hologram because they were the kits not made for exprt...LOL He went out of biz shortly thereafter.
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