Warning number 2 on steroids.

[Keiser]

Nice video. To me it just isn't worth it.

Also interesting, I didn't know that GH gut was from the internal organs growing too large, causing your gut to protrude.

[spidey]

I think people like him didn't know as much about AAS in general back in the day as we do now. If he had done proper PCT and kept up his diet and worked out, I seriously doubt he would have lost it all like that.

Also, his injuries are more a function of his crazy training methods than they are of his drug use. I know people (my brother in law is a good example) who have never touched AAS that are worse off physically than that guy and for the same reason. They pushed their bodies past their limitations and shit had to give.

My bro-in-law has has major surgeries on both hips, both knees, both shoulders, both elbows, and both wrists. He has had at least one knee totally replaced. What led to his problems? Well, being forced by the army to jump out of helecopters at 15 to 20 ft with a full pack without a parachute is likely what did his knees in. Being a 5th degree blackbelt in Taiquando (sp?) and doing crazy shit like punching through 10 concrete blocks (I have seen the photo) probably did his wrists, elbows, and shoulders in. The human body just can't take that kind of punishment without having long term repercussions.

[spidey]

Originally posted by Keiser
Nice video. To me it just isn't worth it.

Also interesting, I didn't know that GH gut was from the internal organs growing too large, causing your gut to protrude.

More of a function of the GH and the elevated levels of IGF-1 it causes than insulin use but, yeah, that's why it is called "GH gut".

[Akamai]

Boucer instead of test consider primobolin. Just a thought.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by Akamai
Boucer instead of test consider primobolin. Just a thought.

that is where I am headed. Primo from now on. that and a light dose of GH.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by spidey
I think people like him didn't know as much about AAS in general back in the day as we do now. If he had done proper PCT and kept up his diet and worked out, I seriously doubt he would have lost it all like that.

Also, his injuries are more a function of his crazy training methods than they are of his drug use. I know people (my brother in law is a good example) who have never touched AAS that are worse off physically than that guy and for the same reason. They pushed their bodies past their limitations and shit had to give.

My bro-in-law has has major surgeries on both hips, both knees, both shoulders, both elbows, and both wrists. He has had at least one knee totally replaced. What led to his problems? Well, being forced by the army to jump out of helecopters at 15 to 20 ft with a full pack without a parachute is likely what did his knees in. Being a 5th degree blackbelt in Taiquando (sp?) and doing crazy shit like punching through 10 concrete blocks (I have seen the photo) probably did his wrists, elbows, and shoulders in. The human body just can't take that kind of punishment without having long term repercussions.

While you are correct that many things led to his problems, the point still remains. Steroids can be dangerous and for anyone thinking about using them should think long and hard before doing so. The one thing that he didnt speak to much about is the mental aspects. To me, that has been the hardest part.

[Akamai]

Originally posted by stonecold54
that is where I am headed. Primo from now on. that and a light dose of GH.

Just what I was thinking.

[BBAddict]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
While you are correct that many things led to his problems, the point still remains. Steroids can be dangerous and for anyone thinking about using them should think long and hard before doing so. The one thing that he didnt speak to much about is the mental aspects. To me, that has been the hardest part.

But can't AAS also allow your muscles to move weights that the rest of your body (tendons, etc.) are not capable of dealing with the stress? Even as a natty, it seems the muscular development outpaces some of my joint capabilities. Biologically, I know it takes much longer for a tendon to rebuild than a muscle.

[AlmostThere]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
While you are correct that many things led to his problems, the point still remains. Steroids can be dangerous and for anyone thinking about using them should think long and hard before doing so. The one thing that he didnt speak to much about is the mental aspects. To me, that has been the hardest part.

Truer words were never spoken.

[DS-COUSIN]

Nice....very nice...You are a good man Charlie Brown...

[New_Mass]

Originally posted by spidey
I think people like him didn't know as much about AAS in general back in the day as we do now. If he had done proper PCT and kept up his diet and worked out, I seriously doubt he would have lost it all like that.

Also, his injuries are more a function of his crazy training methods than they are of his drug use. I know people (my brother in law is a good example) who have never touched AAS that are worse off physically than that guy and for the same reason. They pushed their bodies past their limitations and shit had to give.

My bro-in-law has has major surgeries on both hips, both knees, both shoulders, both elbows, and both wrists. He has had at least one knee totally replaced. What led to his problems? Well, being forced by the army to jump out of helecopters at 15 to 20 ft with a full pack without a parachute is likely what did his knees in. Being a 5th degree blackbelt in Taiquando (sp?) and doing crazy shit like punching through 10 concrete blocks (I have seen the photo) probably did his wrists, elbows, and shoulders in. The human body just can't take that kind of punishment without having long term repercussions.

agreed, not to mention all the compounds and no tellin how heavy the doses were. But as Bouncer and everyone else says, you have to seriously think about the idea before you act on it.

[Chadd77]

He was a pretty big bitch.

He lost a lot of muscle. Wonder if he stopped working out for a while. He said that he works out 3 times a week now.

[lordikon]

Originally posted by BBAddict
But can't AAS also allow your muscles to move weights that the rest of your body (tendons, etc.) are not capable of dealing with the stress? Even as a natty, it seems the muscular development outpaces some of my joint capabilities. Biologically, I know it takes much longer for a tendon to rebuild than a muscle.

I know that I've had to slow down in raising weight amounts in my routine due to elbow pain, and I had to get wrist support gloves because of wrist pain. Sorta pisses me off that my tendons and joints are holding me back, when I'm having enough trouble with gains in the first place. But I don't know of any other solution than to just take shit slow.

[the_inkslinger]

Its amazing how much people take. The most I have ever taken was 750mg a week and I felt that was alot. I got a bro who is on 2grams of test a week , deca, drol , anavar, ,winny , growth ..and he isnt even a pro bb ... its THAT kind of abuse that leads to the rapid crazh. I remeber years ago he looked AMAZING like he could be an amatuer..now he just looks like a big blob.. muscle everywhere..not at all symmetrical .. I dunno ..low dosages and moderation are the key to everything IMO , I do feel like it will have a negative effect eventually no matter what but if you respect the drugs and do low dosages in moderation..pay attention to your time off.. its alot easier on you.. im always off OVER time on.. I was on last time for 4 months.. been off for a year. It's important to give the body a rest. Im no pro by all means on this shit..but doing what my bro dos and staying on for years aint good

[Legion]

I'm just curious. I've noticed a lot of people have pictures of Jay Cutler, or Markus Ruhl, etc. Now do you think they're overdoing it too? Or do you think they're taking reasonable amounts, that combined with their genetics allow them to be that big?