after 3 weeks of sust

[ttown27]

This is my first cycle. Ive been taking sust 500mgs a week. After 3 weeks ive gained 5 pounds. Is this normal progess?

[INTIMID8OR]

Well I'd need to know a little more about you and your diet but you should be happy with that if your a hard gainer .....train intense and get in plenty of protein ..keep us posted on your progress ...

[oswald]

It really dont kick in until about the 4 or 5 weeks.

[therock]

I started gaining real wieght on sust at week 4. Give it another week and make sure your diet is in check bro. If not you wont gain what you want.

[CreepingDeath]

Yeah Id say 5 pounds would be pretty normal. But I agree with therock you'll start seein the best gains in week 4-5.

[therock]

Just to let you know you will keep most your size with sust then with any other test. Thats why I run it more then test e.

[BENCH355ANIMAL]

I've been on Sustanon for 12 weeks now---WK 1-6 250 mgs E3D, and WKs 8-14 250 mg EOD, the Tren at 75 mgs EOD for WKS 8-14. I've put on 36 lbs. mostly LBM, because my waist has actually gotten smaller, and I'm more defined. I didn't start seing the real strength, and weight gains until the 5-6 weeks. Keep the diet in check, and train like an animal......you'll definitely grow. What do you have for PCT? Are you running HCG during or after your cycle?

[Mr I]

You doing fine, keep at it and let us know you progress.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by therock
Just to let you know you will keep most your size with sust then with any other test. Thats why I run it more then test e.

:confused: test is test.

[ROCKETW19]

sooner or later blood levels will be the same dont let the fancy stack fool you sustanon is overpriced test. all tests are the same just different esters make fast or slow acting. why pay more?

[therock]

I actually get it at the same price and trust me its cheap! I get human grade gear for the same price as if you were to go to Mex pharmacy. Just to give you an idea of how cheap I get it. Also the reason I say this is cause it has decanoate in it which is a long acting ester. It has also been tested to be the test that gives you the same gains as deca and keep the same amount as deca. Not many people know this, and thats why they run sust shorter then they should. Sust should be ran at eod injections and run for 16wks at least to get the true benefit of decanoate as it take longer to create peak blood levels. It like comparing Anadur with deca. Both nandrolone but you will keep more with Anadur or Dynabolin then with deca.

[ROCKETW19]

bro the 100mgs of test decanoate in sust is still just test just takin longer to act. mg per mg decanoate has the least amount(weight) of test at 64 compared to prop that has 83. bottom line bro your muscle cells only see the test as test.

[therock]

True. I know my statement above could never be proven for that fact, but I know I keep my gains better with sust then with any other test. There was a website that said what I said. I will try to find it. Just want to let you know I dont disagree with you, just think you will retain more in theory.

[INTIMID8OR]

Rock

I posted this over a year ago ,Maybe this will help clear it up for you ...Maybe not ....



TEST IS TEST IS TEST

I know we have heard this for years but but it seems
many users "even the old timers" Find a hard time
understanding the consept of them being the
same.....The only difference in PROP, ENATHATE AND
CYPIONATE is the ester attached to each one ....the
ester makes the steroid disolve poorly in water but
well in OIL..This gives the steroid fat like
properties making So after its injected its low
affinity to disolve in water will make it take longer
to be absorbed in the bloodstream....The injected roid
can sit dorment for days even weeks before the body is
fully able to utilize it...
A loose rule of thumb is
the larger the ester is the larger percent of fatty
acid will be in your compound.....and the more fat
like the compound will be...ACETATE for example is a
short ester of only two carbon atoms and extends
steroid release for only couple of days ...acatate
componds need to be injected sevaral times a week in
order to keep blood levels steady ...DECANOATE on the
other hand is a long chain ester with eleven carbons
and is capable of delivering its steroid to the blood
over a peroind of three weeks or
more.....phenylpropionate is an exception to the
rule,it contains nine carbon atoms but not the classic
straight chain you see with most esters its structure
gives it a moderate level of oil-soluability and
extends the steroid life for only a couple days longer
than acetate........each ester gives you a different
option .....for example you can inject 100mgs of prop
and you will get most of that hormone into your body
within a few days by the time youve had your third
shot maybe the middle of your second week you probably
already have 200mgs of active testosterone in your
body ...you are likely to notice the anabolic affects
of a drug like this pretty quick.......If you were to
take the same 200mg in the form of DECANOATE you'd
still be waiting for it to kick in making it take an
extra week or two for your cycle to kick in .....But
after a few shots the difference between the release
intervals becomes irrelevant ,,,You will ultimately be
getting the same amount of testosterone into your body
with either drug......
IT IS VITALLY important to
understand that once the esterfied steroid is released
into the bloodstream ,enzymes will remove the ester to
yeild the active "free" steroid again...the compond is
totally inactive until this happens ,the presence of
the ester prevents androgen receptor binding ....your
muscle cells will only see free active testosterone
not an esterfied compond like propionate...The
existence of so many different steroid esters has
spawned quite a bit of misinformation about these
componds among bodybuilders,who tend not to understand
that the ester only controls the release not the
ACTIVITY...some incorrectly believe each form of test
has its own unique binding properties we are
constantly hearing things like take test prop during
your cutting cycle it will produce less water
retention then enathate or cypionate "or" sustanon is
better because it hits four different steroid
receptors ,not one ...when you understand mechanism in
which esters work you immeditaly see the flaw in this
line of thinking .....How can propionate possibly
cause less estrogen conversion if it yeilds the same
free steroid than anathate??the free testosteron
circulating in the blood doesn't know or care,how it
got there and behaves the same way testosteronealways
does .. ......ACATATE HAS
2 CARBONS freguency of inj 2 to 3 days ,,PROP 3
carbons freguency of inj 3 days .......ENATHATE 7
CARBONS Freguency of inj 1 week...cypionate 8 carbons
freguency of inj 1 week,,,DECANOATE 10 CARBONS
FREGUENCY OF INJ 10 TO 12 DAYS .....SORRY THIS WAS SO
LONG BUT I FIND IT GOOD INFO TO KNOW ...TAKE CARE

[ROCKETW19]

well big fella its about time you showed up. your not around as much anymore but when you are you always have great advice.