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[noryb96]

New guy here, and I'm really impressed with the site. Last fall I decided to look into trying a cycle. I gathered as much info as I could, and, after getting scammed once, finally found a reliable source. I was planning on beginning the cycle in January when I got activated and deployed here in the middle east. Needless to say, things got put on hold, but now that I have internet access I'm pumped to try it again. My decision a year ago was to go with a D-bol and Sust stack, or perhaps a Deca and Sust. I greatly appreciate any info or advice I can get. Thanks.

[Bruce Banner]

What exactly are you asking???? You want to know what you should do for your first cycle??? If so, then post up the cycle the way you think it should be run, and we can tell you our thoughts on it.

[Chadd77]

What are your stats? What are you looking to accomplish?

[noryb96]

I am 5'7", 170, 10-11% bodyfat. I've got good vascularity and muscle tone, but need to fine tune the abs by losing fat around my waistline. My goal is to bulk up initially, and follow this with a cutting cycle. I am a little bit rusty on the exact quantities recommended, but I believe it was 2 tabs of dbol 3 times daily, and 200cc of sust per week. Anadrol was also suggested, but I felt it was a little too strong to begin with. As I said earlier, it's been a while, so I'd appreciate any recommendations. Thanks.

[Nekrawulf]

My recoomendation to you it to take your time adding compounds. If you pile a bunch of new compound on your body at once. How do you know which ones are working best for you.

If sust is the first compound you want to use then try 400 mg a week for 10-12 weeks.... At you weight and height ratio I wouldnt reccomend more than that for a first cycle.

Make sure you have Nolva on hand fro gyno and/or post cycle therapy along with your clomid.

Also what Branch of the military are you in?

[Bruce Banner]

Originally posted by Nekrawulf
My recoomendation to you it to take your time adding compounds. If you pile a bunch of new compound on your body at once. How do you know which ones are working best for you.

If sust is the first compound you want to use then try 400 mg a week for 10-12 weeks.... At you weight and height ratio I wouldnt reccomend more than that for a first cycle.

Make sure you have Nolva on hand fro gyno and/or post cycle therapy along with your clomid.

Also what Branch of the military are you in?

This is a good recommendation. You might also consider just using a single ester for your first cycle (i.e. Test Enth.). It will be a little more cost effective, and because this is your first cycle, you will see good results from it. I would run Test Enth. at 500mg, for a first cycle. Split it up into two shots a week.

[BIG C]

Sust is offered at 250mg per cc. You wont achive very much at
that dose. Use at least 500mg sust a wk with no less than 30mg d-bol ed, if this is a first ever cycle. I have saw cycles of test eth used with lower doses of aroung 300-400mg wk along with d-bol create 20-25lbs in 8-10 week cycles. Most kept a solid 15lbs and
kept strength. test eth seems to create a little more water retention than the sust as well as gyno symptoms. The sust is
a good first timer user, but its all good either way bro. Kick arab
ass, we are proud of all of you, have family in army as well.

[JUICE]

A good cycle would be like this brother:

Sostenon 500mgs/wk 10 weeks

Dbol: 30mg/ed 4 weeks.

That should be a good cycle to start off brother.



or u can do one like this bro:

Test (enethate or cyp) 400-500mgs/wk 10 weeks
and
Dbol: 30-35mg/ed 4 weeks

Good and effective cycle there. Btw bro, welcome to SM bRO:drunk: :D

[noryb96]

Thanks to everyone for the comments and advice. I had to go to basskiller's website to refresh my knowledge of the bodybuilding slang. The general consensus seems to be test enanthate stacked with dbol....500 cc of test/wk, and 30 mg/day of dbol, with clomid taken near the end of the cycle to counter the side effects. 10-12 weeks for the test, and 4 weeks for the dbol.

Now I'll try to answer some of the other questions. I am in an army unit that is supporting the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force. We've been pretty lucky in that we've done missions south of Baghdad, where things are relatively calm. The people who really have it rough are those around Baghdad, and for the member's dad who is over there, you should be incredibly proud. Those guys got it pretty rough up there. And thanks for the words of support....it really means a lot, especially since a lot of what we hear is only negative media coverage. Anyways, thanks for the welcome and advice.

[WTFRUDOING]

I just got back from Iraq. I had Three friends die in Tikrik and one friend lose his hand from a grenade thrown in our Humvee from a 13 year old kid. Not very fun I promise. I excaped my tour without a scratch, but the 1500 cals a day wasn't cuttin it. Im with the 82nd at Bragg. Good luck. Airborne!!

Oh and f sust....go long ester 500mg per week 100 prop eod first trhee weeks. Hell throw the dbol in with the prop. Just have nolva......trust me....have nolva.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by noryb96
The general consensus seems to be test enanthate stacked with dbol....500 cc of test/wk, and 30 mg/day of dbol, with clomid taken near the end of the cycle to counter the side effects. 10-12 weeks for the test, and 4 weeks for the dbol.

thats correct brother, but the test is mgs, heheheheh. But yeah go with a long ester, works well and your all good bro.:D

[basskiller]

Hey noryb, It's good to see you around again!

He used to be around back when I headed up Anabolic-Paradise..

It's been quite some time!

[Golden_Muscle]

Originally posted by THE JUICE
A good cycle would be like this brother:

Sostenon 500mgs/wk 10 weeks

Dbol: 30mg/ed 4 weeks.

That should be a good cycle to start off brother.



or u can do one like this bro:

Test (enethate or cyp) 400-500mgs/wk 10 weeks
and
Dbol: 30-35mg/ed 4 weeks

Good and effective cycle there. Btw bro, welcome to SM bRO:drunk: :D

I agree. You could even do 250mg test,and 20-25mg dbol if its your first time and gain a good 30lbs. my first was 8 amps of test. I gained 23lbs, kept it all and dropped a bit of bf%.