Why is Prop so good for cutting???

[dirtyluke1]

Im plaaning to run a 8 week cutting cycle of tren/test i was gonna run prop but i hate the injection pain so i though og ethanate instead
what would be the advantages of running 8 weeks of tren at 100mg/day eod
with 150mg/day of prop eod as opposed to 500mg/week of ethanate??
Thanks Luke

[Stout1]

You diet is what is going to determine if you get "cut" not the choice of drugs.

Only benefit prop has is less bloat of the Enan.

[Slashmonay]

Enanth causes more water retention,people who are cutting try to stay away from water retention

[therock]

Yeah, what they both said is true. But this is the reason why I disagree a little. The way you eat is what decides if you are cutting or bulking right, like stout said. Slashmonay says about the water retention right. But the fact is this. If you run low dosages of test e like 250-400mgs a week and have a clean diet you will in fact get the same gains that you would with prop but prop would do it in record time. Thats because of the esters, but if it wasnt because of that they would actually be the same. They will both get you where you want to be but in different times. Assuming your diet is up to par to cut. So with that said, it all depends on how long you want to cycle for and how much time you need to cut. If you are doing it for a show I would reccomend doing both w/ prop the 1st 4wks and the last 4wks (both times at 50mgs ed or 100mgs eod) while running enanthate all the way through but at low dosage (250-400mgs). JMO.

[Stonecold54]

I don't think a ester of test makes a difference with bloat...the difference is how FAST the bloat goes away...with the short ester your body will normalize faster shedding the water giving a more cut look.

[therock]

Originally posted by stonecold54
I don't think a ester of test makes a difference with bloat...the difference is how FAST the bloat goes away...with the short ester your body will normalize faster shedding the water giving a more cut look.

Thats what I was implying bro. I forgot to write the reason on what I didnt agree on which was water retention. Thats why I said they will do the samething assuming diet is up to par.

[house1]

I don't think a ester of test makes a difference with bloat...the difference is how FAST the bloat goes away...with the short ester your body will normalize faster shedding the water giving a more cut look.

agreed

running a small amount of adex should take away any bloat caused by the enanthate -

i know someone that runs dbol and enanthate right up to show time -

its all about the diet bro

[Stonecold54]

true..any test with an anti-aromatase will do fine.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by house1
agreed

running a small amount of adex should take away any bloat caused by the enanthate -

i know someone that runs dbol and enanthate right up to show time -

its all about the diet bro

:agree:

[jb241970]

Add adex Bro. Works for me!!

[therock]

Originally posted by house1
agreed

running a small amount of adex should take away any bloat caused by the enanthate -

i know someone that runs dbol and enanthate right up to show time -

its all about the diet bro

:agree:

[Skyefire]

Re: Why is Prop so good for cutting???

Originally posted by dirtyluke1
Im plaaning to run a 8 week cutting cycle of tren/test i was gonna run prop but i hate the injection pain so i though og ethanate instead
what would be the advantages of running 8 weeks of tren at 100mg/day eod
with 150mg/day of prop eod as opposed to 500mg/week of ethanate??
Thanks Luke

as everyone said there isn't any advantage really. the only real advantage of short esters is A. quick startup (aormate, acetate, propionate all build up to a equallibrium within the first week or so instead of 5 to 7 weeks) and B. quicker recovery (this is a big one IMO, when your running the longer esters there is a 2 to 3 week strech in that you are still being supressed but without the benift of actually being "on". Shorter esters minimize this in that you can start your PCT the following week)

There is one other advantage, if you devolop problems this makes it much easier to abort then say nand deca. getting gyno is bad, have been running 900mg of deca a week and having to have your gyno agervated for the next 3 weeks while you wait for the nand deca to clear is worse

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by house1
agreed

running a small amount of adex should take away any bloat caused by the enanthate -

i know someone that runs dbol and enanthate right up to show time -

its all about the diet bro

totally true, most people never think of it but dbol is actually second only to tren for being anticarbolic. use a good AI and diet and you have great cutting drug (short term of course)