My Sust and Stana Cycle...Thoughts?

[hitman79]

Stats:

26 year old male, 170 pounds 5'11. Been training for about 6 years. I have had the last 3 months off because of glandular fever.

This will be my third cycle. First two.....sust 250 1cc every weeek for 6 weeks. Was misinformed and paid the price both times by crashing and losing all my gains which were good whist on (gained 15 pounds by the 5th week both times).

Diet will be as clean as I can get.

I have done a search and found some good info on this board so hopefully the course I have put together will be close to what most people will agree with.

My goals are to reach a solid, muscular weight of 200 pounds and keep most of gains and strength this time. I understand that compounds alone are not going to magically get me big again. My diet will have be good and I am going to have to bust my ass again in the gym.

Here tis;

Week 1: 250mg Sust 250
week 2: 250mg Sust 250
Week 3: 250mg sust 250
Week 4: 250mg Sust 250, 25mg Stana EOD, 250iu's HCG EOD
Week 5: 250mg Sust 250, 50mg Stana EOD, 250iu's HCG EOD
Week 6: 250mg Sust 250, 75mg Stana EOD, 500iu's HCG EOD
Week 7: 250mg Sust 250, 75mg Stana EOD, 500iu's HCG EOD
Week 8: 250mg Sust 250, 50mg Stana EOD, 500iu's HCG EOD
Week 9: 250mg Sust 250, 25mg Stana EOD, 500iu's HCG EOD
Week 10: 250mg Sust 250, 500iu's HCG EOD
Week 11: 250mg Sust 250

Well That's it. I have no way of getting any nolva or clomid. I have some pregnyll HCG so I was going to run that during the course to keep my nuts up to speed rather than try to chase a horse that has already bolted so to speak.

As the test dose will be low but 11 weeks long, I am hoping tribulus with creatine post course will pick me up slowly but surely. As the Injectable stana is 17AA, I would not need clomid anyway, right?

Your thoughts on my doses and the time of including HCG and the stanazol would be great. I have the Organon HCG so I am going to do what Hitmansb recommended and dilute it into a 10ml vial giving me 500iu per 1cc. Does anyone think I should use it more post cycle?

All thoughts, queries, critisism will be appreciated and taken on board.

Thanks heaps people.

Hit.

[ROCKETW19]

your wastin money with the sust at 250mgs a week you would be better off with test E. everyone thinks sust is a mircal test! its not its overpriced and a waste if not taken ED or at least EOD. out of the 250mgs you are not takin full advantage of 30mgs of prop and 60mgs of phen. youll get a constent dose of 160mgs but 90mgs will be up and down. these are just my own opinions and im not tryin to sound like a dick. i just hate sust!

[ROCKETW19]

on another note i think 75mgs of winny is alot for you try it at 40mgs for 6 weeks no need to pyrmid up and down with winny. also 250iu of hcg EOD is alot IMO i would go 250ius 2 times a week. and you need to get nolva bro dont start you cycle untill you get it tribulus and creatine wont do jack for you. our board sponcer lion nutrition has liquid nolva check him out. no offence but you cycle needs alot of more thought.

[ROCKETW19]

shit sorry for 3 posts in a row but everytime i go back and read it i see something else. 170lbs at nearly 6feet is real skinny i would say invest in a good high protine diet before steroids.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by ROCKETW19
shit sorry for 3 posts in a row but everytime i go back and read it i see something else. 170lbs at nearly 6feet is real skinny i would say invest in a good high protine diet before steroids.

dont worry about the posts bro, its good advice u giving:)


yeah 6feet at 170 is skinny. I was there 5 years ago, compared to now.:eek:

[hitman79]

Thanks guys,

Is the liquid nolva a problem to import into Australia. I reckon customs may not let it in. I would definately order some though.

I know 170 is skinny. I hate the word SKINNY but when you are born with shitty genes it is word that will be used alot. As I said I got Glandular fever so I lost about 15 pounds.

So you reckon drop the winny to a constant 40mgs for six weeks Rocket. Should I start the winny at week 4 still?

I hear ya on the sust front....but it is the only test I can get. Do you think I should inject half a cc of sust twice a week instead of 250mg once a week. I saw basskillers link for injecting sus and keeping test levels constant but it is a fuckin lot of injections hey!!

Thanks again.

[hitman79]

Just ordered some nolva so that side of things is cleared up...Just FYI.

[therock]

I would inject the sust at least twice a week. Whens the last time you cycled?

[joe bigboy]

Originally posted by therock
I would inject the sust at least twice a week. Whens the last time you cycled?

i'd do the sust 2x a week too

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by hitman79
Thanks guys,

i know 170 is skinny. I hate the word SKINNY

So you reckon drop the winny to a constant 40mgs for six weeks Rocket. Should I start the winny at week 4 still?

Thanks again.

my badd bro i should have said not so big instead of the "S" word! yes i would run it 40mgs for 6 weeks week 4 is fine. also ya hit the sust 2 times a week can you get another bottle? if so run 250mgs 2 times a week. good luck!

[hitman79]

Last cycle was six months ago. Thanks for the info bros. I hope to start this cycle soon.

My only concern now is that I will not get the best out of the winny at only 40mg a week. I have been advised that because of winnys half life, you got to inject it at least twice a week so that would be 80mg. If you guys think that putting 40mg of winny into my system once a week will be enough then I will re-assess the structure of this course. Just clarifying hey!

THanks again.

[hitmansb]

I don't like the constant use of HCG in that cycle. Using a lot of exogenous HCG can desensitize your system to HCG, which can cause some problems when you come off. Using Nolvadex eliminates this problem (which is why I ALWAYS suggest it's use along with HCG for PCT). I'd do something like this instead:

Weeks 1-6: 500mg Sust (250mg Monday, 250mg Thursday)
Weeks 7-10: 500mg Sust (250mg Monday, 250mg Thursday)
50mg Stana ED

If you're dead set on running HCG throughout, I'd run the HCG at 500IU on Saturdays and Sundays (take 20mg of Nolva on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday to avoid desensitization). For PCT, if you want to maximize the amount of gains you keep, you really should snag some clomid to run with the Nolva.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by hitman79
Last cycle was six months ago. Thanks for the info bros. I hope to start this cycle soon.

My only concern now is that I will not get the best out of the winny at only 40mg a week. I have been advised that because of winnys half life, you got to inject it at least twice a week so that would be 80mg. If you guys think that putting 40mg of winny into my system once a week will be enough then I will re-assess the structure of this course. Just clarifying hey!

THanks again.

oh shit thats a typo bro i meant 40mgs a day of winny not week i also didnt know you were gonna inject it! what mg per ml is it?