I used it on my 1st cycle and went from 150lbs to 185lbs in 16wks @ 400mgs a week. But now the rumor is they are shitty and not worth taking. But then again they never did me wrong when I took it, so I cant talk down on them.
used the stuff way back.... got great gains from it... not sure about todays stuff though..... If it is the same the stuff is sweet.... if not ..oh well...... I no longer use it so I couldn't tell ya... sorry
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