Sust or Enanthate ?

[wheyman]

Planning ahead here, but I will be running deca for 12 weeks and can't decide on sustanon or test en to stack it with.

I read some old posts and there are mixed opinions there. What do you think for a third cycle?

by the way I weigh 174 (lost weight doing too much cardio!!!) and I'm about 10% bodyfat.

It's weird, when I weighed 187 I was at 6% bodyfat...I started doing cardio and my diet got all jacked up b/c of my new job and I lost weight, but gained bodyfat. :confused:

[ROCKETW19]

i already know your gonna get your diet back before you start so we will leave that as that. as far as the esters i would use test E any day over sust. sust is overrated.

[stillgrowing02]

i would go with test e. also

[wheyman]

Originally posted by ROCKETW19
i already know your gonna get your diet back before you start so we will leave that as that. as far as the esters i would use test E any day over sust. sust is overrated.

yeah, I've got back into my regular eating routine now...the juice will mean nothing without a good diet.

[Slashmonay]

ull get back to ur prime bro....same thing happened to me....ive lost too much weight trying to cut up....oh well

[CreepingDeath]

I had more water when I ran enanthate but got strong as hell. Didnt like the look tho. Ran sust recently with deca & liked the look alot more but wasnt as strong. Noticed alot less water though.

[BJJ PitBull]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath
I had more water when I ran enanthate but got strong as hell. Didnt like the look tho. Ran sust recently with deca & liked the look alot more but wasnt as strong. Noticed alot less water though.

Test is Test and your body doesnt know one type of test from the other......i never understood why people blame bloat and/or gains on certain "types" of test as opposed to others, unless you are compareing mexican labels which have reps for selling bunk stuff......doesnt matter if you use prop or enant, or cyp, it is all the same thing once you take away the ester. And the ester isnt the compound responsible for the gains or sides......your body will make gains and produce unwanted sides because of the AAS and not the ester. The ONLY aspect the ester affects is how often you poke yourself......thats it!!!!

My guess is that your diet was not consistant from one cycle to the next, or maybe you were combining different drugs with the test from cycle to cycle and that had an affect, but test is test and your body doesnt care whats on the label.
Also your gains will very big time if you are compareing your 2nd cycle to your 1st b/c of the fact that your receptors were virgins before your 1st cycle.........my first cycle i went from a 250 bp to a 315x3 bp!!!! Thats a 65lb increase on my bench!!! But of course the gains are gonna be less dramatic the 2nd time around and even more so the 3rd, especially if i use the same drugs in the cycle......if the gains were consistantly the same from cycle to cycle then i would be putting up 800lbs by now, you know what i mean?
So just because i got strong as hell my first cycle, and not as dramatic on my 2nd, has nothing to do with what type of test i used.

You can control a whole lot of h20 retention by a clean diet and a good thermogenic......ive even used dbol for cutting and a little test and had no problem with water b/c my diet was clean and i was useing an eca and nothing else!!! It was actually my best cutter ever b/c the dbol really brought out the viens and kept a good hard full look to my muscles as opposed to the flat look you get from cutting carbs.

in response to the thread starter...
Test enant is more bang for your buck.

[CreepingDeath]

Originally posted by BJJ PitBull
Test is Test and your body doesnt know one type of test from the other......i never understood why people blame bloat and/or gains on certain "types" of test as opposed to others, unless you are compareing mexican labels which have reps for selling bunk stuff......doesnt matter if you use prop or enant, or cyp, it is all the same thing once you take away the ester. And the ester isnt the compound responsible for the gains or sides......your body will make gains and produce unwanted sides because of the AAS and not the ester. The ONLY aspect the ester affects is how often you poke yourself......thats it!!!!

I know test is test and that is some good info you posted, but Im just saying my personal preferance is sust. I ran both of them with the same amount of deca, ate everything the same, did everything the same and just liked sust a little better. Dbol didnt even give me bloat but when I ran enanthate it DID so I was saying I personally dont like enanthate because he was asking for opinions. SO I gave my opinion ;)

[BJJ PitBull]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath
I know test is test and that is some good info you posted, but Im just saying my personal preferance is sust. I ran both of them with the same amount of deca, ate everything the same, did everything the same and just liked sust a little better. Dbol didnt even give me bloat but when I ran enanthate it DID so I was saying I personally dont like enanthate because he was asking for opinions. SO I gave my opinion ;)

no disrespect bro at all.

typically and scientifically that shouldnt happen. If your diet and other AAS were consistant from the sust cycle to the enanth cycle then there could be a few other variables like for example if you were useing vet grade stuff then one bottle might have been watered down so that you were really only getting 199mg/ml instead of the advertised 250mg/ml......and then the next bottle coulda been right on at 250mg/ml or even a little over. Thats pretty common with the stuff outta mexico, and it coulda also been the deca or dbol that was under or overdosed you never know!
anyhow didnt mean to sound like a jerk.;)

[CreepingDeath]

its all good man

[cajunfreak]

In my experience enthate is far superior to sust.

[danny p]

I always go with sust Its cheaper and because of its fast and slow esters it works every time for me

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by danny p
I always go with sust Its cheaper and because of its fast and slow esters it works every time for me

sust cheaper? thats a first for me! as far as fast and slow esters after a couple of week when the levels build up its all the same anyway. but your right go with the cheaper of the one that makes you think its better.

[danny p]

Originally posted by ROCKETW19
sust cheaper? thats a first for me! as far as fast and slow esters after a couple of week when the levels build up its all the same anyway. but your right go with the cheaper of the one that makes you think its better.

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[house1]

if it was the old sus redijects i would take that in a heartbeat - they were good -

but i digress

go with the enanthate bro