The most you have injected ??

[GreekTank]

Originally posted by house1
those numbers are foolish --

people need to stop relying on the gear and actually fucking train with some pure desire -[

:agree: you should not have to go over 1500mg of TEST per week........ MAX

[JUICE]

the most ive gone is 600mgs, but 3k is insane. No fricken way i would ever inject that much in me.

[Primal Instinct]

Originally posted by addict
Well there getting blood done once a week. they are finding the worst thing is all the oil his body is having to get rid of. His coning out in boils all over his back. and some of the side are really coming out anger, shrinkage

Jeezus....how many weeks are these cycles going for anyway? It seems that the kidneys (not to mention their livers) will certainly not be able to keep up with the detox- all of that oil has to go somewhere. Cirrosis is a serious concern here. At some point, the liver will not be able to regenerate if a certain threshold is crossed. It sounds like these guys are killing themselves and you have to watch them do it. I feel for you. Maybe you can point this out to others who may be looking at these guys for inspiration. If they witness the damage they may be more apt to respect AAS and not abuse such things. As harsh as it may sound this could help others avoid such pitfalls in the long term.

[roidshammer]

it is not unusal - in pro levels - to go more than 2 gramms.

i personally never went over 2 gramms - but that has a reasion, which dosn't lay in the health care department.

the amount one has to take to further improve depands on the level of bodyweight on already is. the more heavier one gets, the more juice is required to go one step further the next cycle.

someone who - lets say - already has 40 pounds more than is
natural possible weight he could achive with proper exercice and dieting will need more AAS to further improve, that someone who - lets say - only is 10 pounds above his possible weight.

after a certain point of success, you will just need to stay on AAS in order to keep the weight up - not even talk about any substantial increase of mass or strenght.

another point is, that it doesn't matter if you are taking 500 mg / week or 2000 mg / week in regards to the inhibition of your abilities to produce your own testo again. both amounts shut down this ability within aprox. 4 - 5 weeks almost to level zero!

one problem that occures when taking higher doses of let's say testo, is, that you also need to increase your nutrition take in substantially in order for the stuff to work - here - as same with the weight - to - AAS - the more heavier you get, the more nutrition you will need to stay on the weight or to gain even more.

thats one of the problems most user face when taking higher doses and don't get the improvements they were expecting - the often just take not enough nutrition - so the result will end in poor gains.

overtraining may be another problem.

what i would not recommend is to go over a certain amount of the liver-toxi stuff like dianabol, anadrol of winstrol- there - i agree, more is not better, because the stress on the liver can get to much...

One that is also important ist, that with high doses like that, estrogen-recepter-blockers as well es aromatiations inhibiters
are a must - because otherwise estrogen level will raise to its max - and - like in the medical bookstore can be read - to much of estrogen goes along with liver-function-problems as well.

one of my max cycles i took was the following:

2 gramms / Sustanone / Week / devided into two injections of
1 gramm

600 trenbolone / week / 100 mg / day (acetate)

1200 equipoise / Week / 200 mg / day (boldanone)

at the end of the cycel a changed the trenbolone to winstrol
and startet to drop the other two over a time periode of
8 weeks - wile increasing the winstrol from 50 mg / day - up
to 100 / 150 mg day at the end. than i started to drop the wini
very slowly over a period of 6 weeks.

during the cycel as well as after the cycle i took chlomid 100 mg / day (decresing towards the end to 50 mg / day - depending on blood testing) plus i took 500 iu hCG 2 times a week during the whole cycle.

with this cacle i gained around 38 pounds - kept 70% after discontinue for several month - test production came back relatively fast - and hormonal production returned to normal
within 2 - 3 month after the cycle.

my nutrition plan was quite strict - 7 - 8 meals a day with at least 50 gramms of protein

works out were limited to 3 day a week - training all body parts once every 7 days - sometimes - due to high intensity workouts - i sometimes only worked out some muscels every 10 day - for me that's enough.

my body-weight at this time was 240 pounds - with a body height of 170 cm (sorry i don't know how much this is in inchs).

[redneck99]

I thought that anabolics were a supplement with hard training, diet and sleep. I didn't know that so many people completely rely on AAS to achieve their physique goals........

I can see the lure of it but I guess I just approcah them differently.