M1t/6 oxo stack?

[stevo]

M1t Stacking without 4ad:

Hi I am new but have spent well over 15 hours reading m1t forums from many sites - so I do not think this question has been covered. If it has my humble apologies:

1. I am in Australia, have m1t but cannot get 4ad.

I am aware that 4ad can help reduce sides associated with test shutdown during a m1t cycle - so - was wondering -
Can using 6 oxo DURING a m1t cycle help counteract the test shutdown caused by m1t? I was thinking that if 6 oxo supresses est and stimulates test production that it may be of help when 4ad is not around. Any opinions??

I am grateful for your time.

[Matt76]

I know plenty of ppl that have taken M1T alone and was fine. 6-oxo is more of a PCT supplement. However, somethign such as nolva or clomid should be considered when doing a cycle of M1T

[stevo]

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Hi,

Appreciate your responding.

Naturally I have nolva here for the pct.

However, what I am trying to find out is not using 6 oxo as a pct but as a substance to take WITH m1t to stimulate natural test during cycle. The reason being I was looking for an alternative to 4ad to stimulate natural test during cycle to help ease some of the sides associated with m1t.
Would this work?

[stevo]

Well, I am on day 10 of taking 10mg ed solo.

Great strength gains and 4 pound weight gain. No visible sides - I have a huge appetite, my sex drive is greatly increased also! No signs of tiredness. I consider the gains to be modest but good seeing I'm only taking 5mg morning and 5mg night.

Got hawthorn, saw palmetto, trib on board also. Hope I don't jinx myself by saying this but - apart from not having liver values done yet - I have found this to be a positive cycle so far.

[Primal Instinct]

I don't think that the 6-OXO would have much effect in conjunction with the M-1T. I would hang onto it for use as a PCT item. Some people react differently to M-1T. For me, my appetite is somewhat reduced while on it.

How long is your cycle? You've posted that you've done much research on M-1T, so you probably won't go over 4 weeks with this cycle hopefully. Methyls are tough on the liver, so definitely take a liver supplement like Uni-Liver or something along those lines when you finish your cycle. Hawthorne berry should help reduce blood pressure caused by M-1T. Stay away from sodium as much as possible to further lower your BP too. Take Nolvadex for PCT because it works best. M-1T is a serious steroid and it requires respect from users. Enjoy your gains!

[stevo]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply and interest - appreciated.

I'm doing a 2 week cycle - just bumped to 15 mg for the last 5 days. 5mg 3 times daily - can you tell me if it is better to take it in one dose - especially if it is better to hit the liver once with 15mg oir three times with 5mg??

I am taking milk thistle as well during cycle and have 6 oxo and nolva on hand 4 pct.

Cheers,

Steve

[Primal Instinct]

Keep your doses split up to maintain steady levels in the bloodstream. I'm not sure but I believe I've read that M1-T remains active in your system somewhere between 8-10 hours, depending upon your digestion processes.

I've done 4 week cycles of M1-T/4-AD (15mg/600mg ED) with no change in liver values and took milk thistle afterwards. I've seen excellent results but I found that M-1t somewhat suppressed my appetite, so I plan on using it in a cutting cycle in the future. Just make sure you have bloodwork done to ensure that you haven't damaged your liver. Although everyone is different, I don't think that a 4 weeker at modest dosages cause any real health concerns but nothing is ever guaranteed. I wouldn't go over 4 weeks though with any methylized product. Remember to give yourself ample time to recover before you start another cycle. Read Pogue's PH update if you already haven't. Prolangtum was kind enough to get permission to post it here on SM.

[GreekTank]

Bro, what is this M1t stuff, some kind of tribulus or something?

[Primal Instinct]

M-1T is an oral, methylized testosterone. Run a search on it in this forum and check the supplement section at the top for Pogue's update. It ISN'T a supplement though, it's a steroid in every sense of the word.