HGH= (promotes)IGF-1 while in the liver.
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I work out about 45 minutes a day in the gym for five days a week (more than that is a waste of time and effort).... I never do cardio unless I am about fours weeks out to a competition.My cardio is having sex with my GF 2-3 times per day. I eat very clean and do not imbibe........HGH works extremely well for my body .... I started at 15.6% bodyfate (five site calipers) and I am now 7.2%... more than 7%....you may not achieve these results but I certainly did.
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Well thats all well and good on a piece of paper. We all know it just dosent work like that sometimes though. I have used both. I have used Igf-1 by itself and I have used Gh by itself. Igf-1 does nothing for me. Im sure there are 50 people here who will say the same thing. GH on the other hand has works very well for me. Say what you will about what IFG-1 does while in the liver, im telling you what works and dosent work.Originally posted by rhinotat2HGH= (promotes)IGF-1 while in the liver.
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yes Long R3 IGF-1 im telling you its garbage. have you ever used it or have you just read about it?Originally posted by BENCH355ANIMALI'm not referring to the supplement companies versions of IGF-1....I'm talking about the real deal- Long R3 IGF-1. Please read another excerpt from Eagle Wrestler.
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I personally haven't use IGF-1 in nearly 10 years but when I did use it the results where quick and uncomparable. I plan on hitting a 7 week cycle in the up coming months. I will admit I will be using it in conjunction with GH & GH & TEST so my results will be based on those combination. I'll be truthful if the effects were any greater with or with out the IGF-1. Its kind of funny I am on another board where people don't have a good thing to say about GH but praise IGF-1. It goes to show not everyone gets the same results from the same products.
Here's what I meant by HGH = IGF-1
The part of the picture that interests us most, however, has to do with the effect of HGH on the rest of the body. Initially, this principally involves the liver.
As large volumes of blood are pumped through the liver via the hepatic portal system, the HGH in the blood acts on the liver (amongst other tissues) to stimulate the production of a hormone called Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1) which consists of 70 amino acids, and Insulin-like Growth Factor-2 (IGF-2) which consists of 67 amino acids. It is through IGF-1 that HGH does most of its work.
As the molecules of IGF-1 are carried by binding proteins from the liver to other parts of the body, they attach onto the walls of cells that make up the various organs.
From this point on, just how HGH works its magic (in the form of its successor, IGF-1) is not known with absolute certainty.
What is known is that IGF-1 with binding protein attaches to cell membrane receptors and stimulates cell differentiation and division, conferring positive effects on cartilage, blood cells, ovarian hormone production, muscle growth and lens differentiation.
As well, IGF-1 signals a rejuvenation and restoration in all cells of the body.
Some of the latest research in this area is currently being conducted by Grace Wong of Genentech, where recombinant HGH was first synthesized. Wong theorizes that HGH (in the form of IGF-1) works by intervening in a causal chain in the following way - and here we come back once more to those nasty free radicals.
As our cells produce energy, one of the by-products consists of oxygen based free radicals. In our cells these free radicals in turn activate destructive enzymes called proteases, which attack and damage the protein in our cells. And when enough damage occurs, the cell dies. Certain anti-oxidants such as vitamins E and C are able to nullify some of the action of these free radicals which stimulate the destructive protease activity. But HGH works at the problem closer to its source.Last edited by rhinotat2; 06-06-05, 03:02 PM.
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Originally posted by rhinotat2I personally haven't use IGF-1 in nearly 10 years but when I did use it the results where quick and uncomparable. I plan on hitting a 7 week cycle in the up coming months. I will admit I will be using it in conjunction with GH & GH & TEST so my results will be based on those combination. I'll be truthful if the effects were any greater with or with out the IGF-1. Its kind of funny I am on another board where people don't have a good thing to say about GH but praise IGF-1. It goes to show not everyone gets the same results from the same products.
Were did you get IGF 10 years ago ?.... ...I was around then and I dont recall it being around ..Maybe I just dont recall ...
And no doubt that board has IGF sponsors on IT ... ......This is where I have to give this boards owner "my respect" HE could have said it was great stuff but he didnt ....Last edited by INTIMID8OR; 06-06-05, 02:44 PM.
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Shit I can't remember but it was just hitting the surface then. Within two weeks the results were definitely noticeable (4 week cycle). I used one bottle I think it contained 1 mg. I am not 100% positive but I do know it worked. I think I paid $700 for whatever it was, its far cheaper today. The results were similar to GH but accelerated. I had a fall out with the guy I sourced it from so never used it again. My knowledge wasn't quite as extensive on it then as it is today. Maybe you guys are right and the stuff out here today could be junk but I need to give it run. I loved the stuff then although it can be dangerous to use. I'll keep you posted on my results.
It actually was probably closer to 96 or 97.Last edited by rhinotat2; 06-07-05, 06:56 AM.
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Just read about it, but as someone else said....everyone is different. On paper it's better than GH, but in reality it could possibly be inferior. i guess I'll have to wait until I use both compounds and then voice my opinion on that. I was just providing some information with my previous posts.Originally posted by THE BOUNCERyes Long R3 IGF-1 im telling you its garbage. have you ever used it or have you just read about it?
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ya bro, give it a try. im pretty sure you will feel the same as I.Originally posted by BENCH355ANIMALJust read about it, but as someone else said....everyone is different. On paper it's better than GH, but in reality it could possibly be inferior. i guess I'll have to wait until I use both compounds and then voice my opinion on that. I was just providing some information with my previous posts.
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I've never tried hgh yet so far...but I have tried igf. I got some good localized growth in my tri where I was placing it but that was all. I wouldn't ming trying it again but you can get a lot more bang for your buck at this time on the market with AS or hgh.
had some extra energy, like I said the tri's did well with local injections and got new growth that I hadn't had there (could be perceived though), vascularity was hard to notice because I am already very vascular with large veins.Last edited by 6p6; 06-11-05, 05:01 PM.
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Originally posted by 6p6I've never tried hgh yet so far...but I have tried igf. I got some good localized growth in my tri where I was placing it but that was all. I wouldn't ming trying it again but you can get a lot more bang for your buck at this time on the market with AS or hgh.
How were the fat burning effects? Did you appear more vascular? How long were you on? How much did you do?
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By the way guys, www.superior-research.com will be adding IGF-1 to our products list in about a week. If you want to give it a try, I will let you know when its available.
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Originally posted by rhinotat2Shit I can't remember but it was just hitting the surface then. Within two weeks the results were definitely noticeable (4 week cycle). I used one bottle I think it contained 1 mg. I am not 100% positive but I do know it worked. I think I paid $700 for whatever it was, its far cheaper today. The results were similar to GH but accelerated. I had a fall out with the guy I sourced it from so never used it again. My knowledge wasn't quite as extensive on it then as it is today. Maybe you guys are right and the stuff out here today could be junk but I need to give it run. I loved the stuff then although it can be dangerous to use. I'll keep you posted on my results.
It actually was probably closer to 96 or 97.
Are you sure you know what you tried?
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