Newbie with a question

[njuce]

Hi Everyone! I found this site tonight surfing around for some input. I have a buddy who is an extreme AS user and a genetic freak on top of it. I work out with him 3 days a week. He is shredded to the max and I am trying to be the same UUghh! I dont want to get any bigger I just want to define what I have. He told me to just do a couple of cycles of winny and he would help me out with diet and new workout plan. He said I will be happy with the results. I believe him but just want to hear it from someone else. Furthermore he said I would probably lose some hair because he sees my dads skull and he is real thin. I can get my hands on Propecia - Will Propecia be safe to use with Winny ? (from what I have read on the forum I believe it should be fine. Am I wrong? and will Propecia 100% stop me from losing hair or will I lose a little. I know we are all different as people and my results may be different but if you have tried this combo can you tell me what happened or tell me to not even bother. Thanks guys I really appreciate it.

[ROCKETW19]

first welcome to the board. second i dont like winny as a stand alone drug i realy dont even like it at all. as far as the hair goes im not sure if propecia works 100% its not worth it if you like your hair. if all you wanna do is cut up id go with a ECA and clen cycle and a good diet and cardio. thats all you need.

[njuce]

Thanks for the input! I guess I have to research Clen and ECA, I am clueless. Thanks again! I would love to hear from others please.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by njuce
Thanks for the input! I guess I have to research Clen and ECA, I am clueless. Thanks again! I would love to hear from others please.

its good to see your not lazy and will research these things! you will learn alot just from reading these posts good luck and when your done with your homework if you still have a question post it we will be more than glad to help.

[njuce]

Hey Rocket thanks bro!

O.k. so tell me if i have this straight....... No laughing if wrong

Clen and ECA are non steroids and that is already a plus for me.


Clen is used post AS cycles to help keep gains?

Clen is a thermogenic which causes weight loss i.e. raises body temp which burns fat?

ECA (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) That sounds fricken scary!!!

Thins out the blood, raises the heartbeat and gives ya energy?

Clen and ECA are both taken orally?

I found that Lion site for Clen but the ECA ????

but then i found a thread about YNCA (now i got that damn song in my head)

So is YNCA better?? They sound real close to me.

Summary

This definitely sounds like a better idea than Winny, it really doesnt sound much safer though IMO All I know is that ephedra stuff makes me loose my mind! Will I have that same feeling with this?

So if i go this route I am combinig these 2 in a stack?

Then that brings me 2 dossages?? On the bottle?

Oh yeah one more thing....Side effects???

Sorry to babble on

Thanks again!

[shortz]

Don't use clen and an ECA together!!!

Well, what have have you done so far as far as diet and cardio goes?

[njuce]

Shortz, Hello! Thanks for the response

I will try to keep this real short....

For the past 7 weeks I have been drinking minimum 1 gallon of water a day. ( I was told to drink really cold so body has to burn calories to bring water temp down) Is that a myth?

I was bumped up to 6 small meals a day eating every 3 hours, I really felt an increase of energy on this one.

Average day is

7:30 am Big cup coffee black

8:30 am Protein shake

10:30 Natty p butter on Multigrain

1:30 chicken or tuna with brown rice covered in hot sauce

4:30 Chicken or turkey with veggie

7:30 Fruit

Sleep 11:00

Workout

3 days a week

Before workout I walk for 3min then run for 2min X2

Lift weights then afterwords run 1 mile

These are directions I follow for cutting cycle.

[hitmansb]

Propecia will not protect you from hairloss while using winny: propecia only prevents testosterone from converting to dihydrotestosterone...winny is already in a form that allows it to bind to dht receptors in the scalp, no conversion required.

[njuce]

You guys really know your sh**!

Thanks!