prop making me sick as a dog...need advice

[MarkymarkTO]

i started taking a prop/tren cycle last thursday(june 9th)I am currently injecting as follows every other day for another 6-8 weeks

prop- 1cc(100mg/ml)
tren .5cc(100mg/ml)

I have honestly never felt so ill in my life. I knew the prop would hurt around the injection site but didn't realize how sick it would made me feel after each injection. Not only do I always feel like I have a high fever , I feel like I am coming down with the flu all day. I have no energy in the gym and feel like barfing for the greater part of the day after the injection.

I have to sleep on my back each night as both my shoulders are bloated and red (obioulsy fighting an infection temporarily) and extremly sore.

I realize the side effects with the tren but the prop is killing me. I cant imagine being on this stuff for another 7 weeks

what I would like to know is what other combo can any of you out there suggest to replace the prop(and still go along with the tren)

I am looking for something fast acting with little water retention and to build size. Possibly something to inject once or twice a week. Could I also increase my injections of the tren and forget about stacking it with something else????

any advice would be welcome.

[Bouncer]

i started taking a prop/tren cycle last thursday(june 9th)I am currently injecting as follows every other day for another 6-8 weeks

prop- 1cc(100mg/ml)
tren .5cc(100mg/ml)

I have honestly never felt so ill in my life. I knew the prop would hurt around the injection site but didn't realize how sick it would made me feel after each injection. Not only do I always feel like I have a high fever , I feel like I am coming down with the flu all day. I have no energy in the gym and feel like barfing for the greater part of the day after the injection.

I have to sleep on my back each night as both my shoulders are bloated and red (obioulsy fighting an infection temporarily) and extremly sore.

I realize the side effects with the tren but the prop is killing me. I cant imagine being on this stuff for another 7 weeks

what I would like to know is what other combo can any of you out there suggest to replace the prop(and still go along with the tren)

I am looking for something fast acting with little water retention and to build size. Possibly something to inject once or twice a week. Could I also increase my injections of the tren and forget about stacking it with something else????

any advice would be welcome.

Instead of worrying what your going to go on next you better worry about what exactly it is that your shooting. It sounds to me like you have dirty gear and are filling yourself up with bacteria. Test flu is common but this dosent sound like test flu to me.

[Lmg2701]

Stick with the prop, fight through it. Sounds like test flu which is common. I usually find it goes away, take some alieve, it will help. Massage the sight good. Might want to consider mixing the prop with some other sterile oil or B-12.

I've never felt that prop was painful until about 2 weeks ago.....Switched from a prop/tren combo to just straight prop and holy shit did it hurt. I've since dropped the prop. but only because I was done with it. Glad it's over though. It sounds strange but I think after a few weeks you almost get use to it and it isn't as bad....That's my opinion anyways.

[Bouncer]

Stick with the prop, fight through it. Sounds like test flu which is common. I usually find it goes away, take some alieve, it will help. Massage the sight good. Might want to consider mixing the prop with some other sterile oil or B-12.

I've never felt that prop was painful until about 2 weeks ago.....Switched from a prop/tren combo to just straight prop and holy shit did it hurt. I've since dropped the prop. but only because I was done with it. Glad it's over though. It sounds strange but I think after a few weeks you almost get use to it and it isn't as bad....That's my opinion anyways.

he said he has never felt so ill in his life. dosent sound like test flu to me.

[rvgfrth4g]

You never told us what brands you're using?

[house1]

what type are you using?? could be dirty!

just switch to a longer ester such as cyp or enanthate -- just keep tabs on your diet --and if you do get some bloat [from the longer ester test]- run a low dose anti e

[MarkymarkTO]

Stick with the prop, fight through it. Sounds like test flu which is common. I usually find it goes away, take some alieve, it will help. Massage the sight good. Might want to consider mixing the prop with some other sterile oil or B-12.

I've never felt that prop was painful until about 2 weeks ago.....Switched from a prop/tren combo to just straight prop and holy shit did it hurt. I've since dropped the prop. but only because I was done with it. Glad it's over though. It sounds strange but I think after a few weeks you almost get use to it and it isn't as bad....That's my opinion anyways.

how about if i just reduced the amount of prop i was taking to one shot every week of 2cc's instead of 1cc every two days. would this do anything???? did prop last year but at a much lower dosing rate and had similar high fever and injection site pain but nothing compared to what i am going through now. maybe i just need to cut down the frequency???

[MarkymarkTO]

You never told us what brands you're using?

the prop is called ORBIT Laboratories 20ml bottle/100mg made in Sweden

the tren is called EMPIRE 10ml/100mg and I believe this could be made in canada , not too sure

[Bouncer]

how about if i just reduced the amount of prop i was taking to one shot every week of 2cc's instead of 1cc every two days. would this do anything???? did prop last year but at a much lower dosing rate and had similar high fever and injection site pain but nothing compared to what i am going through now. maybe i just need to cut down the frequency???

I notice you dont pay any attention to anyone that says your gear might be dirty. This is how people get hurt.

[MarkymarkTO]

I notice you dont pay any attention to anyone that says your gear might be dirty. This is how people get hurt.

i have heard of prop causing some of these symptoms just never thought they would be as bad as I have them. i have posted my brands to find out if they are in fact dirty.

[bigpetefox]

i have heard of prop causing some of these symptoms just never thought they would be as bad as I have them. i have posted my brands to find out if they are in fact dirty.

Well, as sick as you've been getting, you really think they're ok? I'd filter them if I were you..

[Bouncer]

i have heard of prop causing some of these symptoms just never thought they would be as bad as I have them. i have posted my brands to find out if they are in fact dirty.

I have heard of Orbit but have never heard of your tren company. prop dosent cause the kind of symptoms your talking about. the symptoms your talking about sounds to me like your bodys defence kicking in every time you inject.

[POLYDINATOS]

the prop is called ORBIT Laboratories 20ml bottle/100mg made in Sweden

the tren is called EMPIRE 10ml/100mg and I believe this could be made in canada , not too sure

I've tried ORBIT enanthate it was descent...their prop SUCKS bro...honestly bad feed back from alot of people I know....It's underdosed too. I used the UG QFS PROP ....the BEST!

[hitmansb]

Orbit is a solid company...I know Empire as being a decent Canadian lab from what I've heard, but I have seen less feedback on Empire products as that lab is nowhere near as popular as Orbit. Sounds to me like you're someone who responds extremely badly to prop though...I have heard of others who have absolutely miserable experiences with the propionate and phenylpropionate esters.

[MarkymarkTO]

Orbit is a solid company...I know Empire as being a decent Canadian lab from what I've heard, but I have seen less feedback on Empire products as that lab is nowhere near as popular as Orbit. Sounds to me like you're someone who responds extremely badly to prop though...I have heard of others who have absolutely miserable experiences with the propionate and phenylpropionate esters.

thanks this really has helped, at least I know i am not using dirty stuff. now i must figure out a shooting schedule that will minimize my grief