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    Im just sketching on my next cycle, its planned for late november so there's room for changes and opinions.
    I must say that my experience with sust on my current cycle wasnt really that bad, im gaining weight and havent gotten any sides worth mentioning from it yet, although i had to go from every 7th day to 5th day to get a more even level.
    But i havent gotten thoose ups and downs that you guy´s talked about with the sust maybe thats because im on a smaller dosage im not sure, so i switched to enatat in this one.
    This is what i had in mind now:

    w1. 250mg Test enantat
    200mg Deca
    15mg D-bol/day

    w2. 250mg Test enantat
    200mg Deca
    15mg D-bol/day

    w3. 250mg Test enantat
    300mg Deca
    15mg D-bol/day

    w4. 250mg Test enantat
    300mg Deca

    w5. 250mg Test enantat
    300mg Deca

    w6. 250mg Test enantat
    300mg Deca

    w7. 250mg Test enantat
    300mg Deca

    w8. 250mg Test enantat
    300mg Deca

    w9. 250mg Test enantat
    200mg Deca
    5000i.u HCG/5th day

    w10. 250mg Test enantat
    200mg Deca
    50mg Clomid/day
    5000i.u HCG/5th day

    w11. 50mg Clomid/day
    5000i.u HCG/5th day

    And im keeping some extra Clomid and HCG in storage just in case, so lets hear what you think i should change or remove in this one.
    And i did follow the advice on my last one and raised my protein intake from about 250g/day to 300g/day but i did it just before i started my current cycle just to make sure that my body got all it needed. :bnoser:
    Last edited by Marcus BMF; 07-13-05, 08:01 AM.

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    I would run the dboll a couple more weeks ..2 weeks is to short in my opinion ....And I cant tell if your running the hcg and the clomid together or not ..If you are going to run it run it before the clomid .....
    What dose did you run on the sust the last cycle?

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    • #3
      Im doing 250mg sust with five days betwen nad its seems to work fine, and the cycle before that was purely on Deca and since i liked both of them now im thinking of combining the two but everyone seems to recommend cyp or enetat over sust so i think im going with that recommendation.
      And the D-bol i just added to get a kickstart but ive never done any orals so im not sure on the dosage or for how long, then i should maybe push on the D-bols for three weeks instead of two then?
      Last edited by Marcus BMF; 07-13-05, 08:01 AM.

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      • #4
        I like to run d-bol 4 weeks. the gains seem to slow drastically for me after that, so it's a waste to run it longer. I appreciate a conservative dose approach, but this may be a little more conservative than I would ordinarily recommend.. If you gain from it, however, less is good. Too many people dose to heavily too fast, and stack too many compounds. It's frightening to think of what they'll have to run in 5 years, or ten (assuming they are still around)

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        • #5
          Yes well thats what i thought if i dont get any results on 15mg/day ill just have to up the dosage to 20mg/day then, but since i never done D-bol i thought i would go a little easy at first and see what happens, they are after all just a little kickstart.

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          • #6
            20-25 mg should give you very good results. If you never ran it before, you should respond well. Personally, I would run a little more test and not deca. Deca does very little for me, but that's not true for everyone. Have you ever considered a test only cycle?

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            • #7
              Well i would count a pure sust cycle as test only and im on 250mg every fifth day right now and im responding really good to it, as i said before this cycle is under construction still, so maybe i will change the different ingredients before november but im defenetly running with a test thats for sure.

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              • #8
                Did I read your post correctly? Are you going to be doing 5000iu of HCG every 5th day or 500iu? HCG and clomid basically cancel each other out so run the HCG throughout the cycle and clomid post.

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                • #9
                  Okej now thats the reason i posted here, i didnt know that HCG and Clomid cancelled out each other? i thought that clomid was an estrogen receptor antagonist and a good thing to go with beside the HCG.
                  But i wouldnt want to run HCG through out the cycle rather keep it close by just in case and use it as PCT.
                  I see no since in doing it through out the cycle especily after reading the profile on HCG on this forum, where it says "using HCG for too long a period of time or in doses that are excessively high, can desensitize the testicles to the effect of LH and would put your right back where you started from. ".
                  Yes i did write 5000iu? i havent done all the reserch on what a propper dosage for me would be but i read somewhere that the dosage should be 1500-5000iu so i put 5000iu in there since this cycle is only on paper so far if there are things that are wrong or improperly dosed someone here would react to it thats why i seek advice here.
                  What is a proper dosage on HCG such as pregnyl then? i weigh about 87kg now and will probably be at 87-90kg by the winter when im planning this cycle.
                  So any advice on the PCT part on the cycle would be most appriciated, it wasnt until i found this board and read up on it that i realised just how important the PCT really is.
                  Last edited by Marcus BMF; 07-18-05, 06:53 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Well from the research and advice I've gotten, I am running 500iu every 4 days (along with my shots). This will be ample amount to "keep the horse in the barn" throughout your cycle. If you have too high of a dose for too long than yes you can have LH problems. If you don't want to run HCG throughout your cycle you can run it the last 2-3 weeks of your cycle to get your balls up to size for PCT. PCT: I am going to be running Pheednos PCT and most people have variations of this they use as well.

                    All for 30 days.
                    Clomid 100mg ed
                    Nolva 20mg ed
                    Ldex .25mg ed

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