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    Whatsup peepz...5'9 152lbs here...I just wanted to know what you guys thought about this cycle and what should i do. Ive got 20ml of deca 250. Should i take just 1 ml for 10 weeks? Will i gain alot off that? Because my plan was to do the 1ml a week for 10..then clomid...then wait for about 4 weeks then do the other 250 1ml for 10 weeks stacked with sust or andropen 275 1ml a week.. Or would 2ml a week be enough gain...I wanna gain alot of mass..Pleeez help
    Last edited by Prospect; 07-29-05, 08:04 PM.

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    Oh My ^^^

    Your body wont recover after only 4 weeks off, and in your first cycle you will get deca dick
    Last edited by rude; 07-29-05, 08:46 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Prospect
      Whatsup peepz...5'9 152lbs here...I just wanted to know what you guys thought about this cycle and what should i do. Ive got 20ml of deca 250. Should i take just 1 ml for 10 weeks? Will i gain alot off that? Because my plan was to do the 1ml a week for 10..then clomid...then wait for about 4 weeks then do the other 250 1ml for 10 weeks stacked with sust or andropen 275 1ml a week.. Or would 2ml a week be enough gain...I wanna gain alot of mass..Pleeez help

      Deca is very suppressive so running it by itself is not a good idea. Like Rude said, you can develop a symptom called Deca Dick where your winkie won't get hard. If you really want to do the Deca you need to get ahold of 20ml of 250mg/ml Test Enanthate and use that as a base for your cycle. And 4 weeks wont be long enough for your body to recover. You need an equal amount of time Ex: 10 weeks on/10 weeks off, as well as proper PCT. Hope this helps.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Prospect
        Whatsup peepz...5'9 152lbs here...I just wanted to know what you guys thought about this cycle and what should i do. Ive got 20ml of deca 250. Should i take just 1 ml for 10 weeks? Will i gain alot off that? Because my plan was to do the 1ml a week for 10..then clomid...then wait for about 4 weeks then do the other 250 1ml for 10 weeks stacked with sust or andropen 275 1ml a week.. Or would 2ml a week be enough gain...I wanna gain alot of mass..Pleeez help
        I am not trying to flame you here but I don't want to be misunderstood, you don't know what your doing. stop, put the deca back on the shelf and reevalueate what your doing. A deca only cycle is not a bad cycle at all if you run it correctly but it comes with a lot of sides as you were told above. but what your plaining would not work anyway, deca takes about 6 weeks to kick in fully, leaving you with only 4 weeks or so at 250mg a week, half of what you should have for a deca only. And you would need proviron or some other steriod to treat/prevent the deck dick should you get it (a lot of people do)

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        • #5
          Alright so 10 on and 10 off..but if i would do just a deca cycle..how much should i run a week??????? 500?????

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          • #6
            If you're going to run deca only (bad idea IMO, but anyways...), you should run a higher dose...say 500mg per week for 10 weeks. You might want to have some liquid cialis or viagra on hand tho if you don't want your wife/girlfriend to get extremely pissed off.

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            • #7
              Is it really that bad on the limp dick issue...???...I just have this deca here and want have the free money for a few weeks or so get any thing to stack with it..Then it takes a couple to get here.......So im kind of stuck with just the deca cycle this time...But i planned on doing 1 1/2 ml a week this go round...Then on my next cycle go with 1 1/2 deca and 2ml of 200mg of test cyp...what do you think about that???? I just dont have the time or money right now to wait on the test...Will i see sum good results off just the Deca????

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              • #8
                If you dont want to take the good advise given dont, but everyone's advise thus far has advised you against what you have your heart set on, if you dont mind not getting it up for a while then go right ahead and run your deca without any test...if your going to do something do it right the first time, the second cycle sounds alot better than the first, so my advise would be to hold off until you get the cyp, and even then just run a cycle of test only. And no offense at your weight you could fill up your frame without taking anything other than more protein and food.

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                • #9
                  I understand everyones advice and fully respect their opionion.But i have to work with what i got right now..ya know..I understand deca causes limp dick alone.but my old lady is pregnant and i want be getting any for a while anyway because shes about to have her..so i just wanted to know if just the deca this go round like i described 500mg/week/10weeks would show nice results??????

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                  • #10
                    What it's going to come down to is do what you want to do. It's not the best thing to do and if you don't do it right with proper SERM and PCT you could be looking at some pretty unwanted side effects. You can be pretty certain you won't be happy with the results. We don't even know if your diet is good enough to support a cycle that will give you leaner gains, let alone a deca cycle.

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                    • #11
                      Before you are going to get the ok on a cycle, you will have to plan it out a little better than you have. What is your plan for PCT?

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                      • #12
                        how old are you? these guys are giving you some great advice, personally i think at 152 you need to have a look at your diet before even considering gear. your far from your natty potential. i say hold onto your deca untill you atleast have some test. but every cycle should have a test base. 1st cycle should be 500 mg/week of test for 10 to 12 weeks followed by proper pct.

                        have you even researched the sides of deca?

                        im not trying to flame at all here bro, just trying to pass on the knowledge that was passed on to me. make sure you do it right! do a lot of research before injecting yourself with something. good luck and i hope some of this sunk in.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Prospect
                          I understand everyones advice and fully respect their opionion.But i have to work with what i got right now..ya know..I understand deca causes limp dick alone.but my old lady is pregnant and i want be getting any for a while anyway because shes about to have her..so i just wanted to know if just the deca this go round like i described 500mg/week/10weeks would show nice results??????
                          Ok, it sounds like your going to do this so at least do it right. first off your going to need some auxiliary drugs to go with it. Nolvadex is good as a preventitive factor (deca only can cause gyno due to the hormone imbalances that it causes, this is the simplified explanation). HCG ran in a small dose thoughout the cycle will help prevent your nusts from shrinking (testicular atrophy). you can run it 10 weeks if you want but 12 is better. If all you have is 20ml then forget the frontloading part below.
                          like this

                          1 gram deca a week (500mg twice a week) for weeks 1 and 2
                          500mg a week deca for weeks 3 to 12 (once a week is fine)
                          250 iu HCG 3 times a week 1 to 14
                          10mg nolvadex ed or 20 EOD (you can still get gyno on deca due to hormone imbalance)
                          50mg proviron as needed for any problems that may not rises (deca dick)
                          start PCT week 14 with 40mg of nolvadex ed for two weeks then 20mg for another 2 weeks.

                          If you truely don't care about deca dick then you don't need the proviron.

                          I try very hard not to be judgemental on the choices of people but I will offer this: there is the wisdom of experance in people telling you to not run a cycle if you don't have enough gear, or if you have your diet right, and so on. If money is a problem then there are much cheaper ways of doing this, if nothing else cattle pellets are cheap and transdermals are easy.

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                          • #14
                            I don't understand what the rush to do the cycle half-assed is? Why don't you wait until you can run a proper cycle with test cyp or enth as a base first? I'm not trying to flame you but I get the impression that you haven't even considered PCT let alone a decent diet and training regimen. These guys are giving you good advice in order to help you. Why don't you let them? Otherwise, you can just send me the money that you are about to waste...

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                            • #15
                              I appreciate everyone's advice.im 5'10.25yrs..And yes i do have a diet plan...And i bust my ass in the gym 5 days a week along with 30 min cardio twice a week...And yes i know about pct....Ill probably just wait till i get the test...Thanks again for your advice...
                              Last edited by Prospect; 07-31-05, 12:49 PM.

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