EQ-only cycle?

[ill dood]

I've been researching AS for a while now and have come across only one - boldenone- which could provide me with mass and strength without serious risks that I am prone to with other steroids. I am predisposed to hair loss and estrogen-sensitive (had gyno symptoms within a week of a test cyp cycle @ 200mg e5d, dicontinued on day 7) and was wondering if an only eq cycle would be worth it. I kno eq can aggrivate hair-loss as well, but I'm willing to lose some hair, just not to the degree a DHT usage would result in.

The only other AS besides test I have experience with is oxandrolone, which gave me strength gains but little mass. I tried to find any posts of someone doing an eq only cycle, but the only person who came up was stonecold. He hasn't replied to my pm yet, so I was wondering if anyone had some advice?

My stats are:
6' 0"
170lb
~ 15% bf
ectomorph sadly..

[hitmansb]

I've done an EQ-only cycle in the past.....got decent results. But you can do EQ and test together without worrying about gyno and hairloss if you take precautions via the use of finasteride and arimidex. Finasteride will prevent test from converting into DHT, and arimidex will prevent the test to estrogen conversion. Hairloss and gyno will be taken out of the picture. Our board sponsor sells both in flavored liquid form...check it out by clicking on the highlighted links.

The mass gains you'll see on an EQ-only cycle won't be much better than the gains you saw on your anavar cycle...so it makes more sense to take the precautions I mentioned and do it right: 12 weeks of EQ and test cyp.

[ROCKETW19]

i tryed a EQ only cycle a few years back it didnt do much! but i also only took 400mgs of denkal brand (mex) and only did it for ten weeks. i know now i need 800mgs and it dosnt start to work untill the 6-8 week. hitmansb has some good options you should look into.

[beefcake]

I think you'd be much happier with the test, just use some letro and finasteride this time instead to counter the gyno and hairloss. Can't say you'll be pleased with the results of an eq only cycle.

[wheyman]

I think you'd be much happier with the test, just use some letro and finasteride this time instead to counter the gyno and hairloss. Can't say you'll be pleased with the results of an eq only cycle.

:agree: EQ is a decent substance, but you can't expect too much from it, especially if you are using it alone. I'm actually a fan of EQ/Test cycles for slow and safe gains, but if you do need to get what has been advised if you are sensitive to gyno.

WM

[shortz]

IMO, expect to prevent some muscle loss while dieting or if trying to gain, very little lean muscle gains. Eq is not a steroid that you see people get jacked up on like ou see at the gym. One day they are small, the next they are up 30lbs. That is all from test.

I only add Eq to my cycles because of how good it makes my shoulders feel, not really for its' gains.

[muscle_n_blood]

Gyno symptoms from cypionate in a week?? Seems odd.... did I read that right? One 200 mg shot on the first day, another on the 5th? Not much test would have been released from the ester by then, would it?

By the way, I have run EQ by itself and got mediocre results.

[beefcake]

Gyno symptoms from cypionate in a week?? Seems odd.... did I read that right? One 200 mg shot on the first day, another on the 5th? Not much test would have been released from the ester by then, would it?

By the way, I have run EQ by itself and got mediocre results.

Man, I didn't even catch that. I wouldn't think the cyp ester would release that fast. You sure it was cyp and not unsolubalized syno? LOL.

[ill dood]

Gyno symptoms from cypionate in a week?? Seems odd.... did I read that right? One 200 mg shot on the first day, another on the 5th? Not much test would have been released from the ester by then, would it?

Yes, you read that right. I've read a good amount of articles pertaining to side-effects and I've never come across anyone with the severity of gyno-sensitivity I have. I was at a very low dosage and within a week I developed visually noticeable lumps of fat around my nipples and they started to itch every day.

That's why I'm weary of retrying test. I think even with an e-blocker, I can still develop gyno given enough time. No e-blocker is able to completely stop the aromatization or binding of the hormone, right?

Tell me if my concerns are unfounded because I might just be freaking out. I have never tried letro or liquidex, only read about them. Nolva seems to be slowly getting rid of the gyno I got from my discontinued cycle, but it's been 3 weeks since then.

[beefcake]

If you are that sensitive to gyno, then eq is going to give you gyno. Letro or nolva will keep the gyno away. Letro is very powerful, so powerful that I only need 1 squirt, which is .25mg per day to keep the estrogen at bay. Nolva will keep your estrogen from binding to the receptors. Either one will work, I think you're just a little paranoid now from being a victim of gyno.

[muscle_n_blood]

I understand your caution. Nolva works well for me, but I don't have a high degree of sensitivity. I would think you will want some sort of test in your system to replace your natural production that will be shutdown, though. I'm pretty sure EQ will still affect HPTA

[vicmack777]

How much finasteride does everyone use? I have been using 1 mg. Is that enough?

[hitmansb]

How much finasteride does everyone use? I have been using 1 mg. Is that enough?

1mg of finasteride is the same dose as a tab of Propecia...so that's perfect.

[ill dood]

I'm going to take beefcake's advice and try and test cycle with letro and finasteride. I'm assuming the combo research chemical at superior-research is going to be fine. This is what I'm going to go for and I think gyno and hairloss should be a non-issue. Looking for advice on this new cycle. Dosages are low because it's my first test cycle.

wk1-16
test cyp/enan 250mg
eq 400mg

wk1-4
dianabol 20-25mg

wk1-18
.25mg letro ed
1mg finasteride ed

wk19-22
40mg nolva ed



On a side topic, I've gotten a hold of some of these liquid solutions already and I'm unsure how to ingest them. Do I dissolve them in the water first or can I just drink them straight out of the syringe I use to withdraw?

[rippedsucka]

Bro the finasteride is great for helping prevent hairloss during cycle, at least for most people but it also causes a loss of hardness to musculature. Just something to think about.