JEN AND TREN

[DallasCowboy]

Its been awhile sense ive last posted. I finished my 15week cycle in 1st week of last Febuary. the cycle consisted of deca 300 and enthate 250. did fairly well, didnt stay on as strick of a diet that i should have. But still managed to gain 25lbs. And for me, that is alot. Considering i have a very high metabolism.
Anyways, my stats now are as follows, ht: 6'3 wt: 220 and about 10%-15% body fat. And im starting a 2nd cycle with a friend of mine. We were just wanting to get some outlines for stacking growth (jen) and tren. Or winstrol and Tren?

might have left a few things out but any advice is appriciated. and ill keep reading the prevous threads posted. Thanks.

[Stonecold54]

well to start don't stack Growth horomone with anything....it should be a minimum run of 6 months for that. All i will say about tren is that you will need a lot less than you think.

[ROCKETW19]

stoney is right about the GH 6 months min. i love tren but hate winny so i dont like that combo i perfer test-tren thats my altime favorite. tren works wonders for me around 300mgs a week any more and i get gyno. i also like to run tren 8 weeks instead of 6.

[DallasCowboy]

yeah scratch that. Did some research and im probably going to stick with deca 300 and tren. Any thoughts for outlines for those 2 together? Also, im going to be running 8 weeks on 8 weeks off.

[Skyefire]

be careful, some people are prone to gyno with that combo. It works wonders but some people will not like the sides, its very supressive. Unless your like me and respond well to tren you neee to at least through some test or proviron in there. as well as adding anti gyno sups.

[lxorl]

deca and tren are not a good combo. both progestins. tren and prop is a good one.

[DallasCowboy]

Prop sounds good but that i have heard is a 72hr test. How about enthate 250? I believe its slower acting but stays in the system longer?

[Puma]

Deca and Tren are not good at all together, you need a test. You will be so flat if you run them together its not funny. If you could get an erection it would be a miracle.

I just ran a cycle of Tren and Test, did pretty well on it. I have never run Test and Deca together, but its a classic combo, I am sure lots of guys can give you the skinny on it.

As far as the GH, I don't have anything to add.

But, if you get nothing else out of this, make sure to ADD TEST to any cycle you do.

Puma

[bhcpp]

Good advice. Always run test with any cycle, especially with deca or tren. I would never run deca and tren together...............EVER!

[DallasCowboy]

back to my original question though. What are thoughts on Enathate 250 as a test to run with Tren????

[Puma]

Sounds good to me. I don't know the difference between the various brands, but if its 250MG's of Test E (which, from the name, it better be) then it will work just fine.

Depending on your goals/experience, I would recommend between 500 and 750mgs per week.

I just got done a cycle of Test and Tren. I ran the Test at 400mg/week (it was Cyp, but it does not matter) and the tren at 100mgs every other day (EOD). Did well on the cycle, up to 220 now, and have been off for almost 2 months. I kept all but about 5 lbs of it (I was 225 when I came off). Overall, very happy with the cycle; sides were nothing bad at all (acne was the worst of it) and the way I kept the weight was very encouraging.

My only problem now is that I get SO damn sore in the gym. I think that my muscles are still as strong, but they just cannot recover like they did before while on the AAS.

Puma

back to my original question though. What are thoughts on Enathate 250 as a test to run with Tren????

[DallasCowboy]

yeah, ive been off for about 5 months. I ran Deca 300 and enathate 250 for about 15weeks prior. im about 220 now and gained about 30lbs off the cycle. Ive Lost about 10lbs but still have results.

Yeah, i know what u mean though, i hate feeling NORMAL in the gym! :) want to get back to feeling like a FREAK!! :)