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  • #16
    Superdrol IS a steroid. It is 17-methylated masterone pretty much. Just do your PCT like you would for any other steroid. Clomid or Nolva will suffice.

    Also, clomid and nolva are not "extremely hepatatoxic". I don't know where he got that. Breast cancer patients take large doses of nolva for extended periods of time without high incidence of liver problems and they don't even take liver supps.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BBAddict
      Would that someone care to share any negative sides that they did or did not see? Please?!
      I will call him up and ask him to post. He is real secretive about these things. He doesnt want anyone to think he is on real gear, cause he is not. But some people tend to say that SD is on the same level, thats why he is like that.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by therock
        I will call him up and ask him to post. He is real secretive about these things. He doesnt want anyone to think he is on real gear, cause he is not. But some people tend to say that SD is on the same level, thats why he is like that.
        It is real gear. It's an active steroid and needs no conversion. Just cause it's not scheduled like all the rest means nothing.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by beefcake
          It is real gear. It's an active steroid and needs no conversion. Just cause it's not scheduled like all the rest means nothing.
          I agree, but to him it doesnt count as one.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by beefcake
            It is real gear. It's an active steroid and needs no conversion. Just cause it's not scheduled like all the rest means nothing.
            Is it allowed for natural bodybuilding contests?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BBAddict
              Is it allowed for natural bodybuilding contests?
              Nope. All steroids and prohormones aren't. It's usually called a pro-steroid or designer steroid, but an aas all the same.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by spidey
                Superdrol IS a steroid. It is 17-methylated masterone pretty much. Just do your PCT like you would for any other steroid. Clomid or Nolva will suffice.
                Good post Spidey and im sure your quite versed in PCT and you are entitled to your opinion. Everything I have read says otherwise. I'll put it this way, nolva has 2 real advantages: firstly, it acts faster. Since it binds to the receptor instead of the enzyme its effects are seen immediately. Secondly, it is very powerful in the liver, which is why it is so helpful in recovering healthy lipid values. From what ive seen and read, the best way to use it is for 3 days at the beginning of pct, 60/40/20 while increasing your atd dosage 25/50/75. Starting day 4 you would drop nolva and keep using the atd and taper it down slowly over a 3-4 week period.

                From a scientific standpoint, it appears atd is better at boosting test levels, is equally as good at blocking estrogen, has less side effects, does not increase shbg, and won't allow for estrogen rebound.

                I think people need to move along with the times. You got to remember, people always resist change. Experienced users are going to use nolva because when they started atd didn't even exist as a supplement.
                atd is a 100% proven anti-aromatose. There is no denying it because it has already been tested thousands of times. It is PROVEN to greatly increase test. It is PROVEN to inhibit estrogen.

                There are all sorts of procedures available today that people won't use because of the "risk" but that doesn't mean they aren't better. Certainly lasik surgery is a better alternative to glasses or contacts, but for the first 3-4 years I didn't see too many people jumping at the chance to have a laser beam in their eyes.

                I will concede atds havent been around as long as clomid and nolva which are "tried and true." I usually dont post in anabolics section but ive done my homework and BBaddict has helped many ppl on this board (like me). Just my .02$
                Last edited by NYCmitch25; 08-10-05, 06:53 PM.

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                • #23
                  ^ Uh dude Spidey knows his shit to the T... How bout you post your scientific studies that prove your theorys???

                  B I am going to see what I can post in a thread for you

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                  • #24
                    Lets see if this link will work, and BTW B registration seems to be up from what I have seen
                    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23595
                    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21707

                    You are going to have to register bro... I checked again and everything is running fine


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                    Last edited by Pumpdogg; 08-11-05, 12:59 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BBAddict
                      Would that someone care to share any negative sides that they did or did not see? Please?!

                      Sup guys THEROCK just contacted me about this thread so, i will go and tell you how the cycle went.

                      I ran it for 3 weeks, and gained 12 pounds, after PCT i lost 3 pounds. You will need to start preloading on 800mg RedYeastRice, Flaxseed oil, 800mg OdorlessGarlic, and some form of liver protectant like Milk thisle. The reason you will need all this is cause Superdrol fukks with your lipids and it is Methylated so you have to protect your liver. DO NOT GO MORE THAN 4 WEEKS! I have read that, people that went more that 4 weeks come back with a very bad Lipid profile (you dont want this).

                      week 1 10mg
                      week 2 10mg
                      week 3 20mg

                      week 4 to 9 PCT:ALRI Ultra Hot

                      *i have one bottle left that i want to get rid of if your intrested pm me*

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by beefcake
                        Nope. All steroids and prohormones aren't. It's usually called a pro-steroid or designer steroid, but an aas all the same.
                        I just ran through the list of musclemania ban list and i do not see superdrol on there.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BBAddict
                          Would that someone care to share any negative sides that they did or did not see? Please?!
                          oh i did not notice anything odd while on cycle. Except my hair falling, broke out like hell, and i cannot find my balls. JUST JOKING. No i did not notice anything unusual, everybody reacts differently though.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by therock
                            I will call him up and ask him to post. He is real secretive about these things. He doesnt want anyone to think he is on real gear, cause he is not. But some people tend to say that SD is on the same level, thats why he is like that.

                            THEROCK there is nothing too be secreative about i dont care if anybody knows, as long as it is still legal and available at the supplement store i see no reason why anybody should be secreative about it. SD is a steriod though it's legal. If it gets banned then its back to creatine, bcaas, nitrx or maybe i will pay a visit to Mexico :D :D

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                            • #29
                              I wouldnt want you to go to Mex. bro. There stuff works but just aint as pure as UG Labs and American gear. I break out all the time and get more sides with Mex. gear.
                              Also I wouldnt want to see you on gear. You would be a monster and I wouldnt like that cause I would look small next to you. Damn lucky genetic freak.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by diplomats
                                I just ran through the list of musclemania ban list and i do not see superdrol on there.
                                I believe dazed has more research on this, but methasteron is technically a chemical relative of anadrol. So you'll probably test positive for the oxymetholone or according to this, the dromostanalone metabolite.

                                From Superjack at avantlabs.

                                Superdrol has a chemical stucture of 2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one.

                                2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one is a derivative of Drostanolon (also called Dromostanolone), which is also known as Masteron (in the commercial AAS). Drostanolon has a chemical structure of 2a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one. Drostanolon is the 2-methylated form of DHT, so it has typically been used for reducing body-fat and water retention, while increasing muscle hardness and density, as it cannot form estrogen.

                                Now, 2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one is a derivative of Drostanolon, so it is structurally similar, except it is a di-methyl instead of (just) a methyl. It has one methyl in the 17th position, just like M-1-t and M-Dien. But it has a 2nd methyl in the 2nd position, which is un-like the other Methyls which we are familiar with.

                                So this is how the derivative differs from standard Drostanolon, in that it has another methyl in the 17th position (as standard Drostanolon has one in the 2nd position, and not the 17th like M-1-t).

                                Also, it is a saturated modified form of anadrol, so you get the best of both worlds without the progesterone, estrogen, bloat, hypertension problems with anadrol.
                                I think Sldge has one study abouts its positioning effects for estrogen reduction. Zero estrogen conversion with this one, because it's 5-reduced and A-ring alkylated on top of that. Also, the parent compound (masteron) is used exclusively as an anti-neoplastic for metastatic breast cancer, so it's a strong anti-e.

                                Sldge has named the chem. methasteron and the product Supderdrol.

                                2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one has an extremely favorable Q (anabolic/androgenic) ratio. Q ratio = 20 (m-1-t is between 5-16, depending on assay). 20% as androgenic as 17a-MT oral (the reference standard); (m-1-t is 100-220% as androgenic as 17a-MT, for comparison). Superdrol is 400-800% as anabolic as the reference standard (17a-MT); (m-1-t is 910-1600% comparatively). i.e. It looks very, very favorable on paper, and the initial tester reports (logs on AM) back this up so far.
                                Last edited by beefcake; 08-11-05, 11:13 AM.

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