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Hey everyone I am begining my pct of a Test400 and EQ cycle. I hated the injections due to the pain of the T400 and now im scared of any other injections. Im looking for something that will gain me about 15lbs of lean muscle that wont bloat me or cause pain. I was thinking 15 weeks of EQ 600mg per week. If you guys have some other suggestions that would b great. Thanks I appriciate it!
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Bro, Test 400 is known for the painful injections. It is composed of 3 different esters and will most likely always cause irritation at the sight of injection due to the high BA content. maybe you should try either enanthate or cypionate only. This would likely cause less pain. -
Try something around 200-250mg/ml of enanthate or cyp, Do one shot and thats the end of it. Only do eq if you are combining it with test. Also ask yourself one question, if the pain bothers you that much question your motivation, Look at it like this, my workouts are much more painfull than any inject I have ever done, calves pecs flex bi and lateral tri, I've done test 400 tren bi shots and realized that I could handle much more pain esp if Im gettin good results, Nothing comes easy, nothing. Just dig deep and take the pain and grow. Any one who has ever lifted hard, gotten dizzy thrown up or had severe cramps afterwards realizes inject pain is meaningless. Maybe I'm not being sympathetic enuf, but there are plenty guys on here who shoot test 400 because of the low volume needed and don't complain about the pain. I realize my lack of compassion has you prob upset, but toughen up take the pain and move on. If you don't like that advice then do what I mentioned above and take the 200-250mg enan or cyp...
By the sounds of this it was your first cycle considering you have to ask y the T400 is so painfull
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and i dont know if it helps u or not but rotate sites of injections or find one that isnt so bad. i like the chest,bis,tris,shoulders,traps, and legs. glutes are completely out of the question, my ass is too tight and scared for it so try to rotate. also if u want to run single compounds then run some test ester. the other componds are not as effective solo and the sides usually outway the benefits, ie eq drys the joints out in most peopleComment
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Denkall ???Comment
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You can either switch it up to Cyp or Enth, or get ahold of some Syrus T400 if you can (it doesn't hurt).Comment
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You could always do human grade if you can get your hands on it, most likely not. If it is Vet, then try Pets Pharma's Enanthat-350, sure beats the shit out of the QV.
The only issue I see you having with gaining "lean" muscle "15 pounds or so" is that to do it without "bloat," it may be tough on you. Remember, num1son is right, question your motivation, etc. Enanthat will give you some water retention, along with anything suggested in previous responses to your question. It's better to gain 20lbs during your cycle, 5 of it water and retain 15 of it. There is only about 6 different products that will help you not retain water....do a search on Novaldex, Clen, Letrozole, etc.. The rest of the mods and members know the others. What I suggested above is to help with the water, not eliminate it. Each on has it's own attributes and regular specifications.
Good luck...Last edited by DS-COUSIN; 08-22-05, 03:17 AM.Comment
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ok great guys thats for the help...I still have 10 ml of Test400 but I love the Eq. I wanna run the test 400 and 600mg/week of EQ. I have high motivation its just for my first time injecting it was painfull to the point I limped for a week. What can I take during the cycle to keep bloating down?Comment
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lots and lots of water, no anti-es unless absolutely necessaryComment
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Lots of water to eliminate bloating? Isnt bloating when water is between the muscle and skin??? I was going to take nolvadex during my cycle and clomid only for pct...Originally posted by shooter01Comment
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ananvar doesn't hurt :DComment
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LOL thanks stonecold...I was thinknig of doing an anavar EQ cycle...what ya think? im around 200 lbs 12-13% bf and I wanna get more lean...let me know what u think...thanksOriginally posted by stonecold54Comment
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Originally posted by tutim21
Anavar is great if you like miniature staph infections on your arms, chest, and back. OF COURSE, this is if you have the QV or Denkall versions. Just my opinion.Comment
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Are you being serious? I have never heard of carrying injectable var.Originally posted by DS-COUSINComment
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