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    I was talking to a good friend in the medical field the other day and I told him that I was using a 27ga. pin doing quad shots with Enanthate. He said that 27ga. was too small for all the test to get through. I told him I didn't think that was possible since the test is suspended in the oil, so if the oil went in, so did the test. I think he's wrong, but I want to be sure I'm not wasting my stuff. I hate the thoughts of having to use a 22ga. pin if he's right. Anybody have a take on this? BB

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    He's full of shit. The test is completely dissolved (not suspended) so you are correct; if the oil gets through the test gets through. A suspension is actual particles suspended in liquid. If the particles are large enough, they could clog a small needle. However, test enan is NOT a suspension; it is a SOLUTION.

    I used 27 ga needles for all but one of my cycles for everything from test prop to fina to boldenone cyp, etc. and never had a problem.

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    • #3
      Yep, he is full of shit. Your test is fine.

      Isnt it hard to push shit threw a 27G though. I use 23G for all my shots.

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      • #4
        It's scary to think that he's in the medical field and giving u advice like that

        K

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        • #5
          25g 1inch all the way, exept for test suspension in that case 21 or 23

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spidey
            He's full of shit. The test is completely dissolved (not suspended) so you are correct; if the oil gets through the test gets through. A suspension is actual particles suspended in liquid. If the particles are large enough, they could clog a small needle. However, test enan is NOT a suspension; it is a SOLUTION.

            I used 27 ga needles for all but one of my cycles for everything from test prop to fina to boldenone cyp, etc. and never had a problem.
            Dang, I learn something new every day. I didn't realize the test was actually dissolved, I thought it was suspended, but small enough to get through the pin. I was pretty sure I was right, but glad I got an expert's answer. Thanks Spidey. BB

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            • #7
              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
              Yep, he is full of shit. Your test is fine.

              Isnt it hard to push shit threw a 27G though. I use 23G for all my shots.
              Not really hard, it just takes longer. 1-1/2mls. takes about a minute, for me anyway. Which I think is good in a way, because I think it keeps you from knotting up from injecting too fast. Again, that's just me. When I did use a larger pin, and injected faster, I would get sore and have a little knot for a couple of days. BB

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              • #8
                I use 25g, takes a little longer but less scar tissue.

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                • #9
                  I use terumo 22G and 23G for all oil based it goes in smooth and easy so i stick to them.

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                  • #10
                    Even the 25g has left my delts and bi's full of scar tissue.

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                    • #11
                      i use anywhere from 23s to 29s and i shoot everything with them even suspension and winny(except the 29s) i have a couple of tricks if u guys would like me to share

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                      • #12
                        so recomendations are 25g and an inch long?? Ive been using 23g and 2 inches long...any pointers?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tutim21
                          so recomendations are 25g and an inch long?? Ive been using 23g and 2 inches long...any pointers?
                          Depends on where you inject. Smaller muscles like delts, pecs, bi's, etc are usually around 23-25g x 1". Bigger muscles like quads and glutes are usually around 22-23g x 1.5". How deep have you been pinning a 2" needle man? And where is what i'd like to know.

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                          • #14
                            sorry ive been using 1.5 needle and doing it in glutes. what should I use on my delts? 1 inch?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tutim21
                              sorry ive been using 1.5 needle and doing it in glutes. what should I use on my delts? 1 inch?
                              Yea, unless you got really massive shoulders.

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