My Labs since using clomid

[Pumpdogg]

I get my blood work done a few times a year and thought I would share some information regarding my current labs and my old labs... I began a regimen of 50mgs of clomid a day to help increase my lh and fsh levels due to the fact that I had a sperm count of zero.. That was in the middle of May, now in the middle of August here are how things have progressed..

May Labs:
Overall Test: 577
FSH Levels: 0.77
LH Levels: 0.05

At testing I was taking 60 mgs of Evista a day and 100 mgs of Androgel ( which equals out to 10 mgs absorbed)..

August Labs:
Overall Test: 615
FSH Levels: 8.4
LH Levels: 23.9< That is too high

At testing I was taking 50 mgs of clomid per day, and after I found out we were pregnant I stopped taking the clomid regulary... It was sporadic at best.


I have a question for those knowledgeable enough... My doctor is willing to put me back on my Androgel/Evista regimen, or he said he saw no problem leaving me on the clomid for the rest of my life either.... I am not sure what to do... My wife and I want one more child after this one, I am just not sure if using clomid long term will be worse than not having anything at all or the other combo... The thing is I need HRT of some sort, I have since my early 20's, and I have a family history of hypogondal men...

Spidey what do you think??

Thanks for the input

PD

[Pumpdogg]

Bump,
anyone have any idea what would be the best deal?? A life time supply of clomid or a life time supply of androgel and evista???

PD

[Puma]

PD,

Why not go on HRT? If needles don't bother you just get the test and forget trying to push your levels up with other means.

Puma

Bump,
anyone have any idea what would be the best deal?? A life time supply of clomid or a life time supply of androgel and evista???

PD

[Pumpdogg]

Puma, that is kinda what I was asking.... When I am not cycling even with pct my test stays in the bucket... I have been on HRT for about 2 years now... I am at a cross roads however if you will.. My doc will either give me hrt with AI support, or he said I could continue taking clomid forever... I dont know that taking clo for life is such a good thing...

So I was trying to figure out what would be the best thing for me to get from my scripts... feel me?? All the clomid I want, or the other... Maybe I was not clear enough..

PD

[num1son]

I would worry that clomid for life will put too much stress on the liver, its just like when docs ask patients to be on aspirin the rest of their lives it is liver toxic

K

[beefcake]

Clomid also raises shbg, so your free test levels could be so much better i'm sure. Test and proviron would be my ideal hrt stack. Screw the clomid.

[shooter01]

i dont see why u couldnt go back and forth. i also dont have a clue as to why he has u taking clonid and andro gel together, because if your sperm count is down do to the test then the boost that clomid gives you will be inactive sperm and wont make any difference. i read a good article in md by dave palumbo last month on this very same topic

[Mr Incredible2]

I know that your question isn't really asking about bbuilding but IMO you should consider the following; 1)The androgel and Evista arn't gonna give you any credible anabolic gains 2) It sounds like you cycle so when on you arn't concerned about natural test anyway, if you are then you can run HCG once per week anyway 3) you most important concern seems to be fertility for which clomid has worked before 4) using the androgel is done in effort to replace your test/androgens whereas using clomid appears from your labs to have stimulated your overall test anyway.

On considering the above Clomid seems to be the way to go and its interesting that before your second labs poster you wern't even taking that regular, perhaps you could get the same results taking 50mg every two/three days! In short I'd say do your cycles and and use HCG during, thereafter/in between use clomid at whatever dose gets the results. I think trying to stimulate your natural test is the way to go as doing this with clomid also brings your swimmers on! Good luck bro

[Pumpdogg]

Thanks for the responses, Beefcake you make an important note about the shbg, and Num1son I had thought about the undue stresses that long term use may have since there is not any studies for men long term

PD