Water retention

[Puma]

Man, I am about a week in a A50/test cycle, and I am holding a ton of water. I know this is to be expected, but I look like I have a GH gut I am holding so much. :)

Anyway, my question is, what will help this? Will the anti-e drugs get this under control, or do I need to get into a diuretic pill to get rid of the bloat?

Anadrol is out of control, I cannot believe how much weight it has put on me in a week. Unfortunately, I look like shit because of all the retention, I am puffy and bloated. I really don't care right now, but towards the end of my run with Anadrol I have to see some family, and I would really like to cut down the bloat if possible.

Thx.

Puma

[Skyefire]

drol bloat is not just caused by estrogen, so a diuretic would be what you need. however diet should be your first stab (I hate drol myself)

[Chadd77]

drol bloat is not just caused by estrogen, so a diuretic would be what you need. however diet should be your first stab (I hate drol myself)

I hate drol too. I had to stop taking it because it was making me so freaking tired all day.

[Bouncer]

drol is garbage IMO. low dose of dbol works much much better for me.

[num1son]

I love liquidex when I use thai tabs not the same compound but close, helps keep the bloat down but also the water retention helps protect the muscles so some is actually a good thing

K

[shooter01]

try drinking more water, half the bloat that 90% of the guys i have worked with is caused by not enough water. the way it works is if your body doesnt have enough it will hoard it if it has enough then it wont. dont knock it until u try it though. anti es will hinder your gains if you are using them for anything other than for gyno

[Puma]

Well this is my first drol cycle, so I am trying to figure out if I like it or not. The weight gain is amazing, as is the strength, but the bloat is just as "out of this world".

I am going to try pushing my water higher in the hopes that will make me lose a bit. I was wondering about the estrogen factor because I am not running any anti-e right now and my nipples are not sore, so I kind of wondered how I could be holding that much water from estrogen without having other symptoms.

What is the mechanism of action for the water retention from drol?

I am going to get some water pills to try to get this back down a bit. I might take a picture just for posterities sake! :)

drol bloat is not just caused by estrogen, so a diuretic would be what you need. however diet should be your first stab (I hate drol myself)

[shooter01]

i cant believe all the negitives about drol here, granted it is somewhat harmful and has alot of sides but it is by far one of the number one mass builders out there. i personally love it. as for duiretics i say stay the hell away from them unless a doc tells you other wise or you are prepping for a show. u do enough damage and put enough synthetics in your body to be worrying about that garbage. if you want any serious info hit up me or someone else who competes here. i seriously say stay away from duiretics....

[Puma]

I would not say I am hating the Drol, but I am having some sides (which I expected). I am sleeping like shit, sweating alot, bloated, etc. However, my personality is wonderful. My gf says I am never this friendly. I find that rather strange, but whatever.

I am going away for work this whole week, and getting a travel pass to a Gold Gym in Orlando. I feel like I am going to walk in like the staypuff marshmellow man! :)

Anyway, I asked what the mechanism of action is for the drol bloat. Anyone have an idea? I really would like to know if there is anything other then diuretics that I can take to conteract the bloat. And if the answer is only water pills I am just going to live with it.

Thx for the help.

Puma

[powerhouse 48]

increase water intake, and get some CLA....i've got a friend who is an NPC competitor by day, and male stripper by night, he uses the cla when bulking to keep from getting too bloated and affecting his "other" JOB... take it for what its worth

[Stonecold54]

check sodium intake and high gylemic carb intake.

[shooter01]

i want to say that the action that causes drol to bloat is that it is so andro/anabolic that it converts so readily to estrogen and thus causes massive water retention

[Stonecold54]

i want to say that the action that causes drol to bloat is that it is so andro/anabolic that it converts so readily to estrogen and thus causes massive water retention

progesterone not estrogen...kind of like deca bloat but worse.

[shooter01]

never had it from deca, but dbol and drol are out of control if i dont drink enough water

[Skyefire]

I would not say I am hating the Drol, but I am having some sides (which I expected). I am sleeping like shit, sweating alot, bloated, etc. However, my personality is wonderful. My gf says I am never this friendly. I find that rather strange, but whatever.

I am going away for work this whole week, and getting a travel pass to a Gold Gym in Orlando. I feel like I am going to walk in like the staypuff marshmellow man! :)

Anyway, I asked what the mechanism of action is for the drol bloat. Anyone have an idea? I really would like to know if there is anything other then diuretics that I can take to conteract the bloat. And if the answer is only water pills I am just going to live with it.

Thx for the help.

Puma

drols sides are not caused by estrogen or progesteron, or at least there isn't much evadence for the latter. celery ceed works well, and a serm type anti e (not an AI) might help too. drol is the worse of the bloating drugs because it causes all the mechanisms of bloating, here is a good read on some

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catanadrol.htm

It has been suggested that the estrogenic effects of oxymetholone may not be as much mediated by estrogen, as by oxymetholone itself activating the estrogen receptor. Because there is little to no aromatisation off oxymetholone, the possible progestational effect was examined first. Similar to that of nandrolone perhaps. But a study2 testing the progestational effects of oxymetholone and methandrostenolone against those of testosterone as well as nandrolone and its metabolites showed that the progestagenic activity of oxymetholone wasn't even in the neighbourhood of that of testosterone, let alone nandrolone. Ruling out the possibility of progestagenic activity and aromatisation, that only left oxymetholone engaging in a structure with the estrogen receptor itself. Since it has an A-ring similar to that of estradiol (the prime estrogen) so this would be the most logical explanation. Since progesterone acts as an estrogen agonist, it would require circulating estrogen to negotiate such levels of water build-up as oxymetholone causes, so it seemed like a far-fetched idea to begin with.

The water component resulting from oxymetholone use is not be under-estimated either. The benefit of water retention is of course a lubrication of the joints, allowing the comfort of pain-free workouts even with extremely heavy weights, as well as the retention of more nutrients inside the cell, possibly leading to more permanent growth in muscle tissue. The downside to a massive water retention is that it gives you a rather puffed up look. A look not uncommon in off-season competitive bodybuilders and the heaviest classes of powerlifters. With the estrogen increase of course comes the increased risk of more side-effects such as gynocomastia (growth of breast tissue in men). Therefore its always advised that a cycle of oxymetholone is accompanied by the use of an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex. Nolvadex, keeping in mind that aromatase enzyme is not involved, would be the wiser choice as it blocks the receptor for estrogen rather than the aromatase enzyme. Its wise to note as well that the gains from oxymetholone are largely mediated by estrogen, so reducing estrogen may reduce results as well.