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Ok, guys here is a long thread and detailed, I need all of you guys opinion on this. First let me explain what my situation is, and my solution for it.
Ok, just over two years ago, I did a var only cycle 25mg-40mg a day for nearly 4 months. The reason why I did this dumb cycle was becuase back then the belief was var didnt suppress your natty test levels, so I figured I would try it, gain some strength and another dumb reason.
I didnt do PCT since the belief was I woudnt need it, var is a girl steroid, blah,blah. I started noticing the effects the var had on my body, I lost my libedo near completly, would take a good amount of action to get an erection and my balls were near gone (maybe it was becasing I didnt use test and 4 months is so long). I tried to let my body recover on its own, but a few months of that crap, was more then enough for me.
I did Clomid PCT, that december but it had nearly no effect on me at all, balls stayed the same and libedo increased a dot. I then started taking trib, and my balls come back to normal size for a while but then left soon after, the trib had a stronger effect on me then the clomid as hard as that is to believe.
Now, over the next year, my libedo and everthing kept increasing but no where near 100%, so I did Clomid PCT again last december, this time it had a way better effect on me, my nuts came back to near full size and my libedo is near normal just not to the same extent (I get erections more often but their not as "hard" and etc like they once were).
Now, present time and since that last PCT of clomid, my nuts are litterly near normal size at night, but during the day they shrink back down, I guess my body is still trying to reach homeostasis and recover (spidey, skyefire could put this part in better words then I can). Or if I have to do the restroom, my balls will shrink up big time. My balls are near normal size I would estimate 70% of the time during present day.
Today, I feel good, my strentgh is coming back to what it once was, im a bit more sexually active with my girlfriend, I feel like im nearly better but just not there yet, I assume my balls still shrinking shows that my body is a bit suppressed still from that crappy ass cycle.
Before anyone gives me crap, I did see a few doctors about this, I actually saw 4 of them, the 3 doctors that I was refered to, a urilogist, endo, and family doc all said my test levels were low and my nuts were a bit small but since my blood test came out in the range, they coudnt give me anything at all. One doctor, actually the main doctor that refered me to the endo and urologist, didnt like my test levels at all since I was 21 at the time, and felt my balls were way to small, he said I probably got acuired hypogondasim (sp). With some treatment, I will be fine its just not good for me. He said the exact same things Doctor John told me from all things male. Doctor John also feels that series damage to my body is probably unlikely.
I had posted this question during the time, and I always got the same great advice from many of the posters here and on other boards, to take HCG and nolva, the clomid didnt have a effect on me. Here are a few threads on this board I made......
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=19725
I wasnt able to follow this advice since I had gone to mex many times and coudnt find HCG to save my life, 2 weeks ago or so, I finally found HCG in mexico and I have it.
Anyway, I have to plans I want to do, depending on the thoughts of everyone, I will pick. Here is the first plan.......
Re-do PCT but this time with HCG, Nolva, and a bit of Clomid. This should finally fix me up 100% once and for all. (I would take the HCG first for about 2 or 3 weeks at a 500iu twice a week and since HCG suppress your natty test levels, then take the nolva/clomid)
2nd plan.........
Since the HCG is going to mess up my natty test levels, espcially since I plan on using it for the very least 2 weeks, and god I hate doing PCT, this would be my third time doing it, without getting crap in return. I was planning on taking the HCG for a week by itself, and then do a small prop only cycle for 4-6 weeks (taking HCG during the cycle) to have my test levels sky high for the first time in years. Then Do the PCT I mentioned on my first plan, this time coming off with my balls not shrunk and test levels higher, all though the test levels will decline once off cycle. Since my body isnt shut down anymore like it used to be just suppresed a bit, I dont really think running this short cycle would really hurt me since im going to get suppressed yet again from taking HCG for that amount of time. Im so tired of PCT, it would be nice to have gained a good amount of muscle for once to build up my confidence (clomid blues).
Ok, I need all of your guys thoughts on this and any advice would be great.
Ok, just over two years ago, I did a var only cycle 25mg-40mg a day for nearly 4 months. The reason why I did this dumb cycle was becuase back then the belief was var didnt suppress your natty test levels, so I figured I would try it, gain some strength and another dumb reason.
I didnt do PCT since the belief was I woudnt need it, var is a girl steroid, blah,blah. I started noticing the effects the var had on my body, I lost my libedo near completly, would take a good amount of action to get an erection and my balls were near gone (maybe it was becasing I didnt use test and 4 months is so long). I tried to let my body recover on its own, but a few months of that crap, was more then enough for me.
I did Clomid PCT, that december but it had nearly no effect on me at all, balls stayed the same and libedo increased a dot. I then started taking trib, and my balls come back to normal size for a while but then left soon after, the trib had a stronger effect on me then the clomid as hard as that is to believe.
Now, over the next year, my libedo and everthing kept increasing but no where near 100%, so I did Clomid PCT again last december, this time it had a way better effect on me, my nuts came back to near full size and my libedo is near normal just not to the same extent (I get erections more often but their not as "hard" and etc like they once were).
Now, present time and since that last PCT of clomid, my nuts are litterly near normal size at night, but during the day they shrink back down, I guess my body is still trying to reach homeostasis and recover (spidey, skyefire could put this part in better words then I can). Or if I have to do the restroom, my balls will shrink up big time. My balls are near normal size I would estimate 70% of the time during present day.
Today, I feel good, my strentgh is coming back to what it once was, im a bit more sexually active with my girlfriend, I feel like im nearly better but just not there yet, I assume my balls still shrinking shows that my body is a bit suppressed still from that crappy ass cycle.
Before anyone gives me crap, I did see a few doctors about this, I actually saw 4 of them, the 3 doctors that I was refered to, a urilogist, endo, and family doc all said my test levels were low and my nuts were a bit small but since my blood test came out in the range, they coudnt give me anything at all. One doctor, actually the main doctor that refered me to the endo and urologist, didnt like my test levels at all since I was 21 at the time, and felt my balls were way to small, he said I probably got acuired hypogondasim (sp). With some treatment, I will be fine its just not good for me. He said the exact same things Doctor John told me from all things male. Doctor John also feels that series damage to my body is probably unlikely.
I had posted this question during the time, and I always got the same great advice from many of the posters here and on other boards, to take HCG and nolva, the clomid didnt have a effect on me. Here are a few threads on this board I made......
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=19725
I wasnt able to follow this advice since I had gone to mex many times and coudnt find HCG to save my life, 2 weeks ago or so, I finally found HCG in mexico and I have it.
Anyway, I have to plans I want to do, depending on the thoughts of everyone, I will pick. Here is the first plan.......
Re-do PCT but this time with HCG, Nolva, and a bit of Clomid. This should finally fix me up 100% once and for all. (I would take the HCG first for about 2 or 3 weeks at a 500iu twice a week and since HCG suppress your natty test levels, then take the nolva/clomid)
2nd plan.........
Since the HCG is going to mess up my natty test levels, espcially since I plan on using it for the very least 2 weeks, and god I hate doing PCT, this would be my third time doing it, without getting crap in return. I was planning on taking the HCG for a week by itself, and then do a small prop only cycle for 4-6 weeks (taking HCG during the cycle) to have my test levels sky high for the first time in years. Then Do the PCT I mentioned on my first plan, this time coming off with my balls not shrunk and test levels higher, all though the test levels will decline once off cycle. Since my body isnt shut down anymore like it used to be just suppresed a bit, I dont really think running this short cycle would really hurt me since im going to get suppressed yet again from taking HCG for that amount of time. Im so tired of PCT, it would be nice to have gained a good amount of muscle for once to build up my confidence (clomid blues).
Ok, I need all of your guys thoughts on this and any advice would be great.
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