starting symptoms of gyno?

[Jenny]

My bf is in his 7th week of 525 of sust per week and 450 deca a week. He is now noticing sore nipples no swelling or lumps he has clomid on hand no novadex should he start the clomid therapy early take? Is starting the clomid early going to help out with reducing the risk of gyno?

[hitmansb]

He really should get ahold of some nolvadex. Liquid companies can have the stuff to him very quickly. Check out the links on the main page of this site...

http://www.superiormuscle.com/index.php?s=

Some of the site sponsors offer liquid nolvadex at a great price, and have the option of overnight shipping.

[cbr929]

Gets some bromo also just incase the gyno is from the deca

[RUI-Products]

I'd say letrozole and nolva...the letro will do the trick in 2 days .....and he can run it the rest of the cycle

the links you need are in my signature ...turn around time is 2- 3 days in the us with out overnight shipping

[6p6]

I've got a small little lump under my right nipple it just itches a little? I started my letrozole today so I can expect it to go away soon? I am on 85 mg/ml tren and 50mg/ml test prop daily...

[drgoodbody]

6p6 - the lump may subside with letro (or arimidex) and nolva together, if it is related to your test dose, but at 350mg/week I usually don't need anything.

HOWEVER, if it is the Tren, then it is prolactin/progesterone related and either bromocriptine or dostinex (cabergoline) is your best hope.

good luck, and act QUICKLY!

DrG

[RUI-Products]

progesteron need some estrogen to actavate it..the letro will do the trick, here is an interesting article hope it helps..........


Vutamin B6 fights prolactin


The following are excerpted from OB/GYN class notes:
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Suppression of Lactation:

When the mother chooses not to breast feed or the baby is lost, suppression of lactation may be required. Initially the breasts get engorged, however in the absence of suckling further milk production stops on its own. Firm support to the breasts is helpful in reducing the discomfort. Manual expression is not very helpful as it promotes further milk secretion. Estrogens in high doses can suppress lactation, however there are side effects and the risk of venous thrombosis, hence these are not recommended. Bromocryptine, a dopamine agonist, given 2.5 mg twice a day for 14 days can suppress lactation by producing a fall in prolactin levels. This therapy is expensive, has side effects and there may be rebound lactation once the drug is stopped. FDA no longer approves it. Pyridoxine – Vitamin B6, given 200 mg three times a day for 5-7 days is quite effective in suppressing lactation and the drug has no side effects.
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Got Wood? note : adding Bromo to your cycle only adds to the potential anabolic cascade, and potentially negative drug interactions. In medicine B6 is supposed to be as effective as Bromo. Plus vitamin B6 has few side effects.
Here are a few of many studies supporting the use of Vitamin B6 in reducing prolactin:
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J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1976 Mar;42(3):603-6


Effect of pyridoxine on human hypophyseal trophic hormone release: a possible stimulation of hypothalamic dopaminergic pathway.

Delitala G, Masala A, Alagna S, Devilla L.

A single dose of pyridoxine (300 mg iv) produced significant rises in peak levels of immunoreactive growth hormone GH and significant decrease of plasma prolactin PRL in 8 hospitalized healthy subjects. Serum glucose, luteinizing hormone LH, follicle stimulating hormone FSH and thyrotropin TSH were not altered significantly. In addition, in 5 acromegalic patients who were studied with both L-dopa and pyridoxine, inhibition of GH secretion followed either agent in a similar pattern. These data suggest a hypothalamic dopaminergic effect of pyridoxine.

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N Engl J Med 1982 Aug 12;307(7):444-5

Pyridoxine (B6) suppresses the rise in prolactin and increases the rise in growth hormone induced by exercise.

Moretti C, Fabbri A, Gnessi L, Bonifacio V, Fraioli F, Isidori A.

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Boll Soc Ital Biol Sper 1984 Feb 28;60(2):273-8

[Influence of administration of pyridoxine on circadian rhythm of plasma ACTH, cortisol prolactin and somatotropin in normal subjects]

[Article in Italian]

Barletta C, Sellini M, Bartoli A, Bigi C, Buzzetti R, Giovannini C.

The influence of vitamin B6 in a dosage of 300 mg X 2 in 24 hrs, on circadian rhythm of plasmatic ACTH, cortisol, prolactin and somatotropin have been studied in 10 normal women. After vitamin B6 24 hrs pattern of ACTH and cortisol is unchanged; prolactin levels are slightly lower, in a statistically unsignificant proportion the night peak of growth hormone is higher in a statistically significant proportion (p. 0.05). The effect of vitamin B6 is likely to me mediated by dopaminergic receptors at hypothalamic level as previous studies by other Authors appear to prove.

[6p6]

thanks....