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    I am going to be doing my first cycle within the next year and I'm definately going to keep it simple for this one. I know that I am only going to run one compound for my first time to see how my body reacts but I am sort of unsure about the dosage. I don't want to start off to high b/c I will never know if my body could have grown on less and I don't want to start too low like I'm just doing HRT. Any input is appreciated.

    STATS:
    6'2
    180 lbs
    6% bf
    22 at start of cycle

    CYCLE:
    weeks 1-10: Test E @ 250 mg
    1-10: Nolva 10mg ED

    PCT:

    weeks 12-14: Nolva 40/30/20

  • #2
    imo you will be happy with 500 a week of test for 10-12 weeks.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by edvedr
      imo you will be happy with 500 a week of test for 10-12 weeks.
      ya i like the 400-500 range myself i guess the least i would take would be 350mgs. your pct should go 4 weeks 40-40-20-20 nolva.

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      • #4
        I see what you are saying about starting off with low dosages, I can appreciate that. BUT..This will be your first cycle and you will get your best gains of this cycle so I would maximize as much as possible. I would set the baseline to 500mg myself, but everyone is different.

        I would also throw in some clomid with the nolva for pct...maybe even some HCG for 10 days. Remember, the most important thing is KEEPING your gains. Proper PCT and diet will help this.

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        • #5
          ^^ i agree. if you can i would get hcg and clomid to add to your pct.

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          • #6
            Ok i will up the dosages to 350 mg but do yall really think i will need to add the HCG and clomid

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            • #7
              umm with a small cycle like that maybe not, but when it comes to keeping my gains and gettin my boys back up i rather not take the chance. and i normally wouldn't encourage higher doses but i think you should do 500 a week. jmo

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rippedsucka
                Ok i will up the dosages to 350 mg but do yall really think i will need to add the HCG and clomid
                Ive learned that clomid and nolva is plenty for a test only cycle. HCG is for more experienced cycles. I always would up teh Test to around 400-500 a week to maximize your gains. The nolva will help with the water retention during your cycle. Goodluck!

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                • #9
                  What is your goal with your first cycle?

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                  • #10
                    I'd go a little heavier than 250. 400 is a good starter kit. Lots of us have gained well on a base of 500 a week for several cycles before needing to up it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fog_hat1981
                      What is your goal with your first cycle?

                      My goal is to put on anywhere from 15-25 lbs. I'm going to eat clean but im going to eat alot. I don't want my gains to be sloppy, instead i want lean mass. Maybe 400mg of the Test E is where i need to start, but I'd appreciate a vets opinion on whether or not i need anything more than nolva for this first cycle since its so light. Thanks

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                      • #12
                        Speaking only from my own experience, 250 mgs is enough if you want to start slow. My first cycle of test, I took 1 amp of sustanon 250 for 12 weeks and made great gains. I wish I would've taken an anti-e during the cycle, but that was in 1996, and I didn't know shit.

                        Good luck. Let us know if you need help with diet.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rippedsucka
                          My goal is to put on anywhere from 15-25 lbs. I'm going to eat clean but im going to eat alot. I don't want my gains to be sloppy, instead i want lean mass. Maybe 400mg of the Test E is where i need to start, but I'd appreciate a vets opinion on whether or not i need anything more than nolva for this first cycle since its so light. Thanks
                          Nolva alone should be just fine, unless you are abnormally prone to side effects. You'll know a few weeks in. Have your nolva with you BEFORE YOU START so you can start a low dose right away if you notice any symptoms of gyno or excess bloating.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rippedsucka
                            My goal is to put on anywhere from 15-25 lbs. I'm going to eat clean but im going to eat alot. I don't want my gains to be sloppy, instead i want lean mass. Maybe 400mg of the Test E is where i need to start, but I'd appreciate a vets opinion on whether or not i need anything more than nolva for this first cycle since its so light. Thanks
                            I'm not going to give you too hard of a time but if someone else wants to chime in here feel free.

                            Reading through your stats - at 6'2" and 180 (I don't care that your bf is at 6% even though that's pretty damn low) I am going to say that since your goal is to put on 15-25 lbs of a somewhat clean gains - You need to work on your diet long before taking this first cycle...

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                            • #15
                              I knew at some point my diet was going to be brought up. I am at 6% for a reason. I mean I cardio probably 6 days a week and I eat extremely clean but i take in 4000-5000 cals a day, except for 1 day a week as a cheat day. This is where i want to be, not a puffy thick dude. I like the hard look I have achieved thus far and I know that with test you gain a lot of water weight but I'll handle that with PCT. I just don't see anything wrong with what I'm tryin to do here. But, then again thats why i asked for a critique and I appreciate all the input.

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