Is it bad or good

[JUICE]

I got a question on Liquidex. I had pick another date to start my new cycle which i was supposed to start this month. Its consists of

test-e: 600mgs wk for 20 weeks
deca: 300mgs wk for 10-12 weeks
dbol: 35-50mgs ed for 4 weeks
nolvadex: 20-40mgs ed for 20 weeks

I was gonna run liquidex at .25mgs eod or e3d.

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...t=winter+cycle

How would the effects of taking in Liquidex be if i took it around week 10 of the cycle. I know im gonna bloat like a pig while on the cycle without it. But around week 10 I'd be more bigger with muscle and water. After the 10 weeks I was planning on only running straight test-e for up to the 20th week. After that i was gonna switch to Test Prop. And later on to Winny the last 4 weeks.
Since in the 10th-15th week i was gonna do a diet change, start full cardio on the 20th week. What are the benifits of starting Liquidex around weeks 10th or the 15th when the diet starts and cardio. Would this be good. :lm:

[num1son]

usually with liquidex i need a higher dosage like 1mg eod,I take mine starting day 1 to keep the bloating down. Hope this helps and its good to know ure gettin back on the horse

K

[muscle_n_blood]

do you really need nolva and liquidex throughout your cycle? I pick one or the other (usually nolva) but not both, and usually not from day 1..

[Chadd77]

Why would you run prop in the end juice?

I'm guessing so he doesn't have to wait 2 weeks after his last inject to start his PCT. Only reason I can think of.

[JUICE]

So the only reason you would not start the liquidex is so that you feel heavier or bigger:confused:

yup. Right now i feel small and weak. Usually before when i used to bulk up with no anti e's, i would get all bloated and big but felt good about myself cause i looked bigger and thicker. The thing i didnt like was when i took off my shirt, no more cuts, stuff like that but that was on the summers :( But now since fall and winters almost here, i wouldnt mind that since i wont be without a shirt for some months.

Why would you run prop in the end juice? Run the liquidex from the start; dose it at 0.5mgs EOD

i ran it last years cycle towards the end for 6 weeks which ended in a 16 week cycle. I loved the results i got out of it. Bulked up during the 10 weeks and the last 6 weeks i did a diet change and did cardio. Results were good.

Also Im planning to compete here locally and do some south texas show and some Mexican Shows.

I'm guessing so he doesn't have to wait 2 weeks after his last inject to start his PCT. Only reason I can think of.

thats what i did last cycle only waited 3 days after my last prop shot.

[JUICE]

do you really need nolva and liquidex throughout your cycle? I pick one or the other (usually nolva) but not both, and usually not from day 1..

nolvadex, i know if i take dbol i need it bad. I started noticing a difference in my nipples when i was on dbol about 2 years ago. I ran it up to 50mgs a day 4 weeks total. I did a boo boo of not having nolvadex in hand, but like they say u learn.

Never tried Liquidex though.

[JUICE]

Also keep in mind that when you're more bloated than usual, it puts more stress on your heart and BP. And since you'll be on AS, I would say not a good idea bro, just my $0.02

thanx man, just wanted you alls advice on this. But true man, ever thought of the bp thing and heart. MIght as well just start it from the begnining.

[JUICE]

Best bet to do so. But keep in mind that liq will throw off your cholesterol and BP as well, just monitor the BP:)

last cycle i did my bp ouch. Didnt feel good.

[JUICE]

When was the last time you had a full blood panel done? Does HBP run in your family? And remember that being bloated is not being big;)

never got check man, but the symptoms i felt people who've had it told me it could be that.

Yeah, HBP runs big time in my family and so does Cholesterol runs too big time. My dad had his levels way too high last time he got a check up and the thing is he dont eat much and if he does its nothing bad. Not to mention my aunts :(.

I gotta invest some time and money to get checked man. A good check up at the clinic will cost me about 20 bucks or so.

[wheyman]

I would just run the liquidex through out the cycle and keep the nolva handy. From researching I would suggest using either aromasine or low dosages of letro instead of liquidex, but use what you have..Better than nothing.