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    For starters i'm 35/M, 6' 2" & 220# with 18% bf. I have been working out for about 8 years, with the last year and a half being a little more serious. I Just did my first cycle of AS and I wish I would have done some research first. With some advice from a friend who claimed he knew what he was talking about I took (enantat 250) 1ml EW, 1.5ml EW for 3 weeks, 2ml EW, 1.5ml EW & just finished today with the last of it at 1ml. I plan to wait 2 weeks and start my PCT of clomid. I didnt really see the gains that I thought I would. Although some people have made comments and said I look bigger, I only see minor change. I put on 5 lbs in the 7 weeks and as far as strength only moderate gains there too. I was maxing out my bench with 315# at 2 reps before and now i'm getting 5. I really didnt watch what I was eating and only a couple weeks ago started with 3 protein shakes per day. I probably dont get enough sleep either, mostly due to my job(s).

    I guess my question is how long should i wait to try another cycle? This time I want to do it right and be more dedicated to my diet. I want to try the test enan again because I have read alot of good things on here about it. I was thinking of "cocktailing" it with something else (maybe deca). I guess my goal is to get a little bigger but mostly get ripped. I'm pretty good sized now but not alot of definition. Anyway I'm just looking for some suggestions (without getting beaten up too bad for being a newbie and not researching first) on dosages and cycle time for the test enan and deca (or something else to mix with the test) and the proper dosages for my PCT of clomid.

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    It dosn't sound like it was the enan at all. Like you said, diet is the key and there is no reason to pyramid your shots. Just pick your dosage and stick with all the way through. Just saying you get 3 protien shakes a day dosn't tell us much. It's all relative to your daily diet. Post your whole diet and the times in which you consume your foods. I wouldn't bother using deca next time around, espeacially if your trying to cut. It makes you hold quite a bit of water. Even though it's superficial it can cause havok on your motivation. Give the test an honest chance with the right diet. You will be suprised how well it works when you give it the proper building blocks. Depending on what mg enan you get next time, you could consider maybe upping it a bit around 300-500mg/wk. But keep researching and see what you think sounds best for you.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shibby
      It dosn't sound like it was the enan at all. Like you said, diet is the key and there is no reason to pyramid your shots. Just pick your dosage and stick with all the way through. Just saying you get 3 protien shakes a day dosn't tell us much. It's all relative to your daily diet. Post your whole diet and the times in which you consume your foods. I wouldn't bother using deca next time around, espeacially if your trying to cut. It makes you hold quite a bit of water. Even though it's superficial it can cause havok on your motivation. Give the test an honest chance with the right diet. You will be suprised how well it works when you give it the proper building blocks. Depending on what mg enan you get next time, you could consider maybe upping it a bit around 300-500mg/wk. But keep researching and see what you think sounds best for you.
      i agree with shibby.

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      • #4
        I guess my question is how long should i wait to try another cycle?
        Time on equals time off.

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        • #5
          thanks guys......any suggestions about the clomid dosages for coming off this cycle? and is waiting two weeks to start it the right choice?

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          • #6
            I'm a nolva hcg guy, doin the clomid thing made me too emotional and then would irritate my skin, its best to try diff types of pct to see how you react best

            K

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