Deca or d-bol on first cycle?

[IndianGodMan]

I am going to be getting on my first cycle here real soon... I think I will be going with a ten week cycle of

Testosterone Enanthate/300 - 500 mg

Now trying to figure out what else to use I would like to use either deca or d-bol but I am a bit concerned of something I've heard called decadick, would d-bol bea better option? what do u guys think. Tahnks

[wheyman]

Ok, here we go.....

1. How old are you?
2. How long have you been training?
3. What is your diet like?
4. Have you really researched AS before considering?
5. Do you know about PCT?

These are things we need to know before advising anything. You can't just join the site without posting your stats and expect to get information about AS.

WM

[IndianGodMan]

Sorry bro... I have been esearching for a while now. I'd like to think I am not some dumb guy just trying to get on steroids.

I am 26
about 6 foot around 190-200
last time I cheked about 14% body fat

My diet as far as calories and intake goes is okay, I mean I TRY and eat upwards of 4000 alories daily. I have researchd and am still researching. I know what pos cycletherapy is I am still trying to just figure out whats best you know? But I am not just sticking a needle in my arm I am trying to learn.

[wheyman]

That's cool, I don't mean to come across like a dickhead either. We just get so many posts from young guys that don't know that much about AS wanting advice on cycles. I wish I had the knowledge that I do now when I first started.

To answer your question. Some people love deca, some people hate it. I personally have had great success with deca without any sides, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen. Recently I started experiencing itchy nips (beginning signs of gyno) with EQ/Test so I had to really think about my next cycle if I even decide to.

My advice to you would be to keep reading and learning and try to rely on diet and exercise as much as possible. Make sure you have your diet in check before even considering AS. AS will only take you so far, but your diet, training and PCT will be the deciding factor.

As for when you are ready to cycle, I would suggest 500mg of Test Enanthate for 10-12 weeks alone. You don't want to start off w/multiple substances until you know how your body reacts to one. PCT should include nolvadex and clomid.

Good Luck with your training!

WM

[IndianGodMan]

Hey thanks man I apprecaite it. I just get that response cuz I see people just trying to get on steroids without knowing whats right I just have spent a lot of time trying to learn you know? One other question for general knowledge, some people have said to do nolva/letro along with test e others say wait till after?
What is the diffrence?
And I may want to use letro just because from what I have read its the SHIT!

[SloppyJo]

Hey thanks man I apprecaite it. I just get that response cuz I see people just trying to get on steroids without knowing whats right I just have spent a lot of time trying to learn you know? One other question for general knowledge, some people have said to do nolva/letro along with test e others say wait till after?
What is the diffrence?
And I may want to use letro just because from what I have read its the SHIT!

u would only need to use nolva or letro while on if your prone to gyno or youre getting symptoms of it. if not, then i would wait until pct to run the nolva

[wheyman]

Hey thanks man I apprecaite it. I just get that response cuz I see people just trying to get on steroids without knowing whats right I just have spent a lot of time trying to learn you know? One other question for general knowledge, some people have said to do nolva/letro along with test e others say wait till after?
What is the diffrence?
And I may want to use letro just because from what I have read its the SHIT!

I wouldn't recommend using both together b/c it's counterproductive. Letro is and anti estrogen (will prevent gyno) where nolva is used to treat gyno. Are you prone to gyno? That would be the only reason to run letro during cycle other than to minimize water retention.

I personally would just run the test and if you start seeing signs of gyno then I would run nolva until it subsides. If you want to be cautious then you could run the letro with the test and then discontinue it when you start PCT with nolva and clomid.

[Shibby]

Have you figured out how steroids make your dick shrink yet?

[IndianGodMan]

Don't really know if I am prone to it... Now as far as my diet concerned would eating 4000 calries daily and if I am right it would be about 300 grams of protein if you are around 200 punds? Is That right or would I need more than that because of the added muscle growth?
I plan on staying on creatine thru the whole thing howdo you guys feel about that?

[wheyman]

Dude honestly, you aren't ready for AS. If you are asking questions about diet then you aren't ready.

[ROCKETW19]

Dude honestly, you aren't ready for AS. If you are asking questions about diet then you aren't ready.

damm wheyman i was wondering when you were gonna figure that out. i keep reading down the thread and tellin myself your gonna flame him any minute.

[wheyman]

damm wheyman i was wondering when you were gonna figure that out. i keep reading down the thread and tellin myself your gonna flame him any minute.

I was trying to be patient b/c he is a newbie and I know I was at one time too, but fuck.

[vein69]

Sorry bro... I have been esearching for a while now. I'd like to think I am not some dumb guy just trying to get on steroids.

I am 26
about 6 foot around 190-200
last time I cheked about 14% body fat

My diet as far as calories and intake goes is okay, I mean I TRY and eat upwards of 4000 alories daily. I have researchd and am still researching. I know what pos cycletherapy is I am still trying to just figure out whats best you know? But I am not just sticking a needle in my arm I am trying to learn.

Dbol is a good one, you dont need to stick a needle in you if your a begginer steroid user, wait till your more experienced then start jabbing yourself. Bear this in mind though, injectables are safer than orals because they are less toxic, but a dbol only with a pct is good for a first cycle.

[Ashop]

I am going to be getting on my first cycle here real soon... I think I will be going with a ten week cycle of

Testosterone Enanthate/300 - 500 mg

Now trying to figure out what else to use I would like to use either deca or d-bol but I am a bit concerned of something I've heard called decadick, would d-bol bea better option? what do u guys think. Tahnks

try some Test E at 500mg wk, and Eq at 400mg wk. follow up with proper PCT.

[mastakillah]

man, you should be eating 400 grams of protein a day, especially if your on AAs.