EQ or Deca

[metalmarty]

That depends on what you want. if your bulking then deca hands down. If your looking for ways to imporve you health during a cycle then they are about on equal footing with deca being better with the jionts and EQ better for the rest of the conective tissue. For lean gains EQ is also better.

I know how deca provides joint lubrication, but how exactly is EQ beneficial to connective tissue?

[Control]

Deca to me is both over-rated and under-rated. The thing you always hear about deca is how great it is for the joints, but I've found that my clients get better relief from naproxin. The bad things you hear about it are deca dick and bloat, but 50 mg a day of proviron usually takes care of that just fine.

EQ however, is my third favorite drug and I love it for so many reasons. Some guys seem to respond better to it than others, but overall it's a great drug.

[euphoria_x05x]

i was thinking of running either an EQ 400mg wk or Deca 200 wk only cycle 10 wk out of both which would give me more keepable strength and gains? I know deca will add more mass due to water retention.
Also Ive read alot about both of these can lower your libido can you not just take a viagra and is it easy to recover from this in PCT using nolva or clomid ?

sorry for all the questions.

[Control]

i was thinking of running either an EQ 400mg wk or Deca 200 wk only cycle 10 wk out of both which would give me more keepable strength and gains? I know deca will add more mass due to water retention.
Also Ive read alot about both of these can lower your libido can you not just take a viagra and is it easy to recover from this in PCT using nolva or clomid ?

sorry for all the questions.

Big mistake. You want to have some test in there. Is this your first cycle? If so, it should be test only. Also, 200 mg of deca isn't enough and 400mg of eq isn't enough either. And just for future reference, eq won't lower your libido, deca won't really either but it will make it hard to get an erection and/or bust a nut. Not trying to flame you but it sounds like you have alot more research to do.

[euphoria_x05x]

yeah will be my first cycle the reason ive choose 200mg deca is for the fact of low sides where what ive read about test ill get sides and im not looking to put alot of weight on because i still live with me parents and ill have a hard job explaining how I put on 20pounds in 10 weeks then lose half of it. Ive been talking to me mate who done 200mg deca and he sugested going to 300/400mg would that be better?

[Skyefire]

I know how deca provides joint lubrication, but how exactly is EQ beneficial to connective tissue?

just how the deca helps the joints is a matter of debate but EQ will increase collagen production a little more then deca as well as increasing crosslinking density. nearly twice that of primo BTW. so it is a good choice if your looking to limit sides. if your looking for mass then again deca would be your better choice.

[Control]

yeah will be my first cycle the reason ive choose 200mg deca is for the fact of low sides where what ive read about test ill get sides and im not looking to put alot of weight on because i still live with me parents and ill have a hard job explaining how I put on 20pounds in 10 weeks then lose half of it. Ive been talking to me mate who done 200mg deca and he sugested going to 300/400mg would that be better?

How old are you?

[euphoria_x05x]

21 in a couple of weeks

[Control]

21 in a couple of weeks

I'd wait at least another year or so before you start using gear bro. I know that's not what you want to hear right now but I get the feeling you can gain alot more muscle without it. I've had alot of guys your age come to me wanting to know about gear or wanting me to hook them up and I always talk them out of it and get them growing naturally. Every time.If you're interested I'd be happy to help you out, just PM me.

[1badMF]

I personally like Deca because it's the shit!! I've ran it with Sustanon and now im running it with test cyp. The last time I used it, the sus kicked in right off the rip and then about 3 weeks later I tripled strength when the deca kicked in. EQ to me sucks because me and 2 other people tried it and noticed nothing amazing except a increase in apetite. If your going to run either one though I wouldn't go any lower than 400mg of deca a week and no less than 600mg of EQ a week otherwise your just wasting your time but like people said before me, it's whatever works best for you.

As far as you not going the gear route yet because your only 20, yeah it's probably a good idea for you and even me because im only 19 and on gear right now. I've read alot where our natural testosterone levels are super high even without gear because until about 23 or 24, our bodies are still developing and testosterone is already high enough and I ignored all of that. But I'm swol!!! lol

[crossconnect]

yes,i agree to wait until your 23 or 24 when your sure your growth plates have sealed.starting gear too young will stunt your growth.i have used deca(always with test) alot and love the growth and joint lubrication it gives me.you will see quicker weight gain with deca from my experiance.i ran boldenone undecylianate at the end of my last cycle.i dropped the deca and added bold@500mg for 10 weeks along with test enth.i didnt notice a whole lot from the bold but i was also using oral winny so i was fairly dry and vascular to begin with.also i didnt get the joint lubrication i had with deca and i will not run winny again without it.winny will dry you out and make your joints hurt.hope this helps.

[crossconnect]

how about eq and deca together along with a good test@500mg a week?has anyone tried this(i'm sure they have,as a matter a fact this will be my next cycle)?if so share the mg dosage of each and what kind of results you got from it!thanks!!!!!!!!!!

[Jorlen]

Without personal experience, just adding it all up, I would say Deca and EQ are not substitutes for each other. As their receptor affinities for the different steriod receptors are cleary different.
Like Crossconnect says, anyone tried combining the two?

[Skyefire]

how about eq and deca together along with a good test@500mg a week?has anyone tried this(i'm sure they have,as a matter a fact this will be my next cycle)?if so share the mg dosage of each and what kind of results you got from it!thanks!!!!!!!!!!

It works great but it is a lot of gear to take. the min doses of deca and eq don't really change with the addition of other steriods so your around a gram or steriods before the test. (thats not the same as a gram of test though, much milder) 300 to 400mg deca and 600 to 800mg eq.

[Control]

how about eq and deca together along with a good test@500mg a week?has anyone tried this(i'm sure they have,as a matter a fact this will be my next cycle)?if so share the mg dosage of each and what kind of results you got from it!thanks!!!!!!!!!!

I've taken Test/eq/deca together before a few times.
The highest doses I ran were 2000mg test 800mg eq 600mg deca,
That was for 24 weeks with dbol at the beginning and winny at the end, I also ran proviron with that cycle I believe. Needless to say, it was effective....