what about switching from deca to eq every 3-4 weeks to get the best of both worlds?i dont think there is a progesterone conflict between the two like deca and tren!i think i will try that in my early spring cycle.
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Originally posted by crossconnectwhat about switching from deca to eq every 3-4 weeks to get the best of both worlds?i dont think there is a progesterone conflict between the two like deca and tren!i think i will try that in my early spring cycle.
That's not a good idea at all. EQ works best when you run it for a long time (16 weeks or more) If you take it for three weeks you'll be coming off it right when it starts to kick in, even deca should be run for 10 weeks.
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Now I have been reading for weeks now on trying to decide which to go with Decca or Eq. I am 24 (growth plates sealed) 5'10 at 175lbs diet is on target and about 15% body fat. I am a model and actor who is not looking to get huge but replace the estimated 10lbs of fat into muscle. (not concerned about weight gain). Now I have struggled with this for the longest time reading, researching and training and getting no where. So with that said, which would be better? Now I was told to do decca/winstrol at 400mg and 150mg tapering for the winny. I want to maybe put 1-2 inches on my arms and be able to see my abs for once. I am a newbie to this part of fitness so any help would be appreciated. Sorry if the answers are out in the forum I just did not find them.
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Originally posted by Surf2liveNow I have been reading for weeks now on trying to decide which to go with Decca or Eq. I am 24 (growth plates sealed) 5'10 at 175lbs diet is on target and about 15% body fat. I am a model and actor who is not looking to get huge but replace the estimated 10lbs of fat into muscle. (not concerned about weight gain). Now I have struggled with this for the longest time reading, researching and training and getting no where. So with that said, which would be better? Now I was told to do decca/winstrol at 400mg and 150mg tapering for the winny. I want to maybe put 1-2 inches on my arms and be able to see my abs for once. I am a newbie to this part of fitness so any help would be appreciated. Sorry if the answers are out in the forum I just did not find them.
What's your diet and training like? PM me, I bet I could get you where you want to be without steroids.
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I am with control on this one, you probably don't need steriods to do what you want. If you still want to use them then this is the best option for what you wantOriginally posted by Surf2liveNow I have been reading for weeks now on trying to decide which to go with Decca or Eq. I am 24 (growth plates sealed) 5'10 at 175lbs diet is on target and about 15% body fat. I am a model and actor who is not looking to get huge but replace the estimated 10lbs of fat into muscle. (not concerned about weight gain). Now I have struggled with this for the longest time reading, researching and training and getting no where. So with that said, which would be better? Now I was told to do decca/winstrol at 400mg and 150mg tapering for the winny. I want to maybe put 1-2 inches on my arms and be able to see my abs for once. I am a newbie to this part of fitness so any help would be appreciated. Sorry if the answers are out in the forum I just did not find them.
1.8 grams EQ week 1
600mg EQ a week for weeks 2 to 16
PCT should be 40mg of nolvadex for weeks 19 and 20 and 20mg for weeks 21 and 22. no need for anything else.
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agreed!if all you want to do is put on 10lb of muscle,your 24 and you've never used steroids then you should be able to do that with a good diet and some good ole' wieght training!steroids would make it easier and your gains would come quicker if you did them correctly.i would make sure you are maxed out naturally first.if you do go with the juice start with a very basic low dose cycle.keep it simple with test e around 300-400 a week.my first cycle was at 23 6ft/160lb and i gained about 20lbs in 12 weeks (250mg sust about every 5 or so days). i stay very dry on test and deca and have not had any signs of gyno or bloat and i do close to a gram a week(500 test e,400 deca).i do gain about 15lbs a cycle and lose about 5lbs when off.i tried test e and eq and didnt get nearly the gains i did with test e and deca.maybe because i dont retain much water and deca works better for me.the main thing to remember is everyone reacts differently.
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Thats how I was comming off a sus/deca cycle. I gained about 20 pounds in 12 weeks and lost 5. I wen't down in strength some but overall I kept about 70% of my gains when comming off. I also notice though that when getting off a cycle like that, I get very cut and muscles look harder from losing the water retention.
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I ran prop and tren and winny right up until my show last time. If you were running long-acting test or deca then obviously you would cut that out 3 weeks prior...Originally posted by crossconnectyes,i think there is alot of truth to being muscular due to losing water weight when coming off aas.i read somewhere that that is how the pros prepare for a show is drop the aas a week or two before the show.maybe someone here who competes can shed a little light on this subject!
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damn, thats alot of gear bruthaOriginally posted by ControlI've taken Test/eq/deca together before a few times.
The highest doses I ran were 2000mg test 800mg eq 600mg deca,
That was for 24 weeks with dbol at the beginning and winny at the end, I also ran proviron with that cycle I believe. Needless to say, it was effective....
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Dude, is this safe? 1.8 grams of EQ in a week? I am just starting my test/eq cycle, and am doing 600mgs a week, but I could do a big frontload if it makes sense. I just never heard of anyone doing that much of a load with EQ.
I understand that the ester takes time to degrade, but if I shoot 1.8 grams in a week, doesn't that mean that in 4 weeks (when the ester is cleved off) I am going to have 1.8 grams of that shit in my system at one time? Or does it not work that way? It takes time to get it all converted and my level will go up more quickly, and not spike like crazy?
Thx for any help.
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Originally posted by SkyefireI am with control on this one, you probably don't need steriods to do what you want. If you still want to use them then this is the best option for what you want
1.8 grams EQ week 1
600mg EQ a week for weeks 2 to 16
PCT should be 40mg of nolvadex for weeks 19 and 20 and 20mg for weeks 21 and 22. no need for anything else.
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