Deca/Dbol or Sust/Dbol

[jdoc08]

Alright i know going into this that you guys are going to say run test is a most....Just looking for some input. Im starting my second cycle dec 14th when i am done school and have a month and a half straight to hit the weights 2 times a day 4 days a week with 2 days of just cardio push ups pull ups. My diet is getting planned out now. I know numerous people that toke just deca/dbol cycle 400mgs deg and 30mgs dbol everyday. They blew up and kept about 80% of their gains. I also no people that toke a sust/dbol cycle hense the test that also blew up but did not keep much of their gains. Either way i know i need my anti e's and some clomid for pct. Im looking for a good beginners cycle that doesnt involve just a straight test cycle. This is my second cycle first one was a stupid cycle just to cut down water weight durring summer. I plan on doing my bulking cycle now and doing a anavar and some eq durring summer with the last 4 weeks adding winnie tabs into it.

[coffee-guy]

When i am done school and have a month and a half straight to hit the weights 2 times a day 4 days a week with 2 days of just cardio push ups pull ups.

This should get you far by itself...

:laughnew:

[ROCKETW19]

This should get you far by itself...

:laughnew:

ouch thats harsh! :dancingne
i think maybe you should go over your lifestyle first before takin any chances with gear! you cant just work out for a month and a half. how old are you anyways?

[jdoc08]

first off its not a month an a half. its 2 years now brother and im 23 i love how you fucking think you know it alls critisize everyone and judge everyone but i dont see your fucking pics that prove you know what your doing. Everyone on this forum thinks they are fucking god well your not

[Shibby]

What are you trying to prove by saying your 23? If you don't like it hear, no one is forcing you to stay. Now as far as your question goes, why do you not want to do a test only cycle? Are you wanting to take advantage of your time off, then go back to training naturally? Well with the Deca it will just start to kick in at the end of your time off. I don't think sust is the best choice at all. If you are trying to take advantage of the prop ester since you have a brief break, then you should just use a straight prop. If that dosn't matter then you should use a cyp/enan to keep your total injects down and is a better choice for a longer cycle.

[Puma]

Here is what I would do to gain max mass in 6 weeks. Now I have no idea what your cycle history is, so this is what I would do for me. Adjust the doses as you deem necessary.

Test Prop - 100mgs/ed
Tren - 75mgs/ed
DBol - 40-80mgs/day (spread out evenly throughout the day)


That cycle, in 6 weeks, I would expect to gain about 20 lbs or so. If you've never juiced before, you will gain more, I would think about 25 or so (assuming you eat enough and hit the gym like a maniac).


All that said, I would not recommend something like that for a first cycle; that's alot of gear to use for your first time, and more then almost anyone would need who does not already have alot of experience and muscle on them.

Puma

[ROCKETW19]

first off its not a month an a half. its 2 years now brother and im 23 i love how you fucking think you know it alls critisize everyone and judge everyone but i dont see your fucking pics that prove you know what your doing. Everyone on this forum thinks they are fucking god well your not

hey ass hole im not the one typin in quote" i have a month and a half to hit the weights" you did so dont get madd at me when i anwser according to your post. :dancingne

[ROCKETW19]

first off its not a month an a half. its 2 years now brother and im 23 i love how you fucking think you know it alls critisize everyone and judge everyone but i dont see your fucking pics that prove you know what your doing. Everyone on this forum thinks they are fucking god well your not

you fuckin troll in march when you joined this site you said you were 20yrs old and been workin out 4 months so how did you gain 3 years old in only a few months? same with you 2 years trainin?

im sorry to all other members that read this as you all know i dont act like this but some reason this guy pushed my button. once again sorry for wasting your time with these posts.

[Shibby]

im sorry not winnie v it is real winstrol cycle tablets. i foregot to say im about 5' 9 and am 20 years old. ive researched alot and know to get the real cycle not the knock offs. i just want to know how i should make my workout. im trying to cut fat while still building mass. ive been lifting for about 4 months everyday constantly going up in strength. ive lost 4 waist sizes already but have only cut 2lbs i assume its because im gaining muscle weight please respond thank you...jd

Ha, good call Rocket. I did say no one is forcing you too be here, but I am thinking about forcing you too leave. We don't tolerate bullshit and shitheads hear.

[Ashop]

Sust 500-750mgwk/ Deca 400-600mgwk/Dbol 4 weeks 35-40mgday

[beefcake]

you fuckin troll in march when you joined this site you said you were 20yrs old and been workin out 4 months so how did you gain 3 years old in only a few months? same with you 2 years trainin?

im sorry to all other members that read this as you all know i dont act like this but some reason this guy pushed my button. once again sorry for wasting your time with these posts.

:laughnew: Oh damn. Got caught.

[coffee-guy]

you fuckin troll in march when you joined this site you said you were 20yrs old and been workin out 4 months so how did you gain 3 years old in only a few months? same with you 2 years trainin?

im sorry to all other members that read this as you all know i dont act like this but some reason this guy pushed my button. once again sorry for wasting your time with these posts.

Maybe what I said wasn't so bad :D.

Rocket - I won't judge you bro - I had him pegged as a tool from the beginning :rolleyes: .

[ROCKETW19]

Maybe what I said wasn't so bad :D.

Rocket - I won't judge you bro - I had him pegged as a tool from the beginning :rolleyes: .

ya you were spot on with your first post.

[pockethercules]

Tough crowd!!! Jdoc if you have not been training hard and reached what you think is your natural limit you are waisting your time on gear. Especially if you are not going to be able to train hard when you get back to school. If that is the only three things you have access to. Then the dbol is about the only thing you are going to see any results from in that short of period, but you will lose most of it when you get off. I would not recommend you taking anything until you get more consistent with your training and diet, but if you are definitely going to take something out of those three I would say sust and dbol. Good luck, and I hope you decide to wait!

[Shibby]

Tough crowd!!!

Tough crowd? He got caught in a lie and is full of shit. Why should we help him when is just going to lie and then bitch at people when they don't tell him what he wants to hear.