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  • #16
    Originally posted by hitmansb
    There are theories I've seen floating around that IGF-1 is far more effective when taken IV rather than IM. I'm certainly not suggesting trying this (though there is a vet on another board I frequent doing so right now, and I am watching his progress reports with keen interest), but it's something that may prove to be accepted in the future.
    almost any peptid drug would be except that it would be out of your system much faster that way. also I don't know that I would want my heart to be directly exposed to the IGF like that, we don't think that it enlarges the heart but there is not really any proof that it doesn't

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    • #17
      So if IGF-1 needs to be handled with great care as it is very unstable. how can you safley have it shipped to you.. we all know them damn delivery people are kinda tuff and packages.

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      • #18
        Lions great with packaging and I'm sure they will put some cold packs in it.

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        • #19
          I'm sure they would but do they send it a certain way to make sure that it is handled with extreme care.

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          • #20
            no gh gut with igf...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kingj
              I noticed that superior research is now selling IGF-1 and I have been considering trying it but I have heard that some people do not respond to taking IGF-1. Is this a large portion of people or just a few.. any info would be helpful.

              used the lr3igf-1 and liked it well.

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              • #22
                Kingj, Think about the way you phrased your question. How about "Alin who made your IGF?".

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                • #23
                  Alin who made your IGF?

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                  • #24
                    I have also heard of people using GH that the elevated levels of IGF1 in their body causes some gyno issues.. I have had a run in with gyno in the past and am wondering If I were to use IGF 1 would this make my gyno flare up?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by buyb12
                      no gh gut with igf...
                      To my understanding, hyperplasia occurs in both skeletal and smooth muscle tissue... Correct me if I'm wrong- and I do hope I'm wrong. I have been into the idea of using IGF for a while and really want to try it out, but my small waist has to stay as small as possible due to my short stature and back width. So any growth in my waist at all would be very bad.

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                      • #26
                        it takes a very high dose of gh to effect any abnormal growth (ex. hands, face, gut, etc.)

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                        • #27
                          this is a good read http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...&highlight=gut

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by metalmarty
                            To my understanding, hyperplasia occurs in both skeletal and smooth muscle tissue... Correct me if I'm wrong- and I do hope I'm wrong. I have been into the idea of using IGF for a while and really want to try it out, but my small waist has to stay as small as possible due to my short stature and back width. So any growth in my waist at all would be very bad.
                            that is true, IGF can cause gh gut as I understand it but its only a problem at the higher dosages/longer cycles. but there isn't much info to go on as it is still very new

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                            • #29
                              I am currently running a cycle of test E at 500mgs a week. I try to keep my doses low to avoid having anymore gyno problems.. Would adding IGF to this cause my gyno to flare back up?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kingj
                                I am currently running a cycle of test E at 500mgs a week. I try to keep my doses low to avoid having anymore gyno problems.. Would adding IGF to this cause my gyno to flare back up?
                                while IGF is necessary for gyno you already have lots floating around from the test e, it is estrogen that cause gyno, not IGF, not progestone or the like, just estrogen. the others can agervate the situation but estrogen is the cause.

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