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    A few years ago someone managed to piss me off by telling a guy that body building was not a poor mans sport and that he should cry off. Needless to say this pissed me off, not only was it incredibility snide but it is untrue. It is quite possible to have an excellent cycle for less then 200 dollars. Even if you don’t have a source there are some excellent methods that are inexpensive and effective. They require some work on your part but they are well worth it. It is worth noting here that no cycle will be effective if you do not have a good diet and training schedule. Diets and training will make or break a cycle.

    On that note here are some things that you should not skimp on, that is not to say that you have to spend a lot but that you MUST have an adequate amount of these:

    1. Auxiliary drugs: Nolvadex is the primary one here. It is need as an anti estrogen and gyno prevention as well as for your PCT. No other anti e drugs are needed although they may be desirable. You should be able to get all you need for around 30 to 50 dollars for a research company, as a powder less then 2 dollars. Other items might include an AI, both for estrogen and DHT if you need, b12 or b complex inject able, and maybe PCT boosters like Nolvadex XT if your in to that kind of thing (unnecessary I believe). Be sure to check the board sponsors out.

    2. Dietary items. Stock your fridge. Quality is more important then quantity here. (note other believe that you have to have a min amount of protein and such in amounts that defy reason. I don’t buy this) a good rule of thumb is 6 small well balanced meals. There is all kinds of nutritional information on this site, make use of it. Here are some costs saving tips: buy lots of chicken breast and lean ground beef (93/7) when it’s on sale. I can get both for $2 to $2.50 if I wait a while. Then I stock up (if you vacuum pack the chicken it works great and if you buy the factory sealed roll of the ground beef it freezes well). Increase the amount of eggs that you eat. These are some of the cheapest and best protein sources available. Don’t spend a lot of money on supped up protein shakes or bars as they are inferior sources of protein and expensive to boot. Remember the body can only use so much protein in a day and what it doesn’t use is ether burned for energy or you end up pissing it down the bowl. Again it is more important to keep your protein consistent throughout the day then eat a lot of it as your body doesn’t store it. If you need to supplement your protein just get a regular whey protein shake, one that you like and buy in 10lb lots. No one has ever shown me that this is any less effective then spending a fortune.

    3. Quality of life items. Time being the most important. You have to have enough time to dedicate to your cycle or you’re going to waste it. If you are sacrificing your workout, sleep, recreation time, or family time then you’re hurting your cycle. Most people don’t think of these things in terms of costs or resources but they are no less important then anything else. Stress is to be avoided.

    Now the good stuff. There are two ways to get your steroids, make them yourself or buy them. Buying them outright is going to cost you though, UG labs aren’t so bad if you have a good source but they come and go. Some (IP) are so bad that I wouldn’t give that shit to my dog. Some are almost as good as human grade gear, which is the best if you can get it. Sense were are assuming that your lottery investment didn’t pay off so the bulk of this article is going to concentrate on making your own or “homebrew products” However if you can find any of the items pre made at a reasonable price then fill free to fill it in the appropriate places below. I will go into how to make the most of pre made briefly below.

    I am not going to discuses source pricing or particulars here for obvious reasons but I am going to discuss how to get the most bang for you buck from the inexpensive pre made items.

    1. Test. Any kind really so long as it is from a good source / reputable manufacture. If it’s made by a UG lab check around. Sometimes you can get a good deal on a particular type of test that doesn’t sell well. I know of one UG that couldn’t sell its test 500 for anything. Well it was 500mg of test cyp and it hurt when you used it. I told my friend to go ahead and buy it and cut it in half with his deca. (sterile oil would have worked just as well) he bought it for about a dollar a ml. Sometimes you can get a deal on test blends or so called rocket fuels (usually test and deca or test and EQ).

    2. Dbol. Yes I know what everyone says about a dbol only cycle and well there are both right and wrong. Muscle is muscle. Even the muscle you would gain from a methandrostenolone cycle. I wrote this a while back and I still stand on it:
    Not keeping any of your gains on an oral only cycle is popular and common belief. This is not without reason. Many people don't keep their gains, not because of the type of drugs used or differences in potency but because of the type of people that use an oral only cycle. To make a success out of an oral only cycle you a. dedicated b. to be knowledgeable, c. disciplined. Most people (not all) that are all three don't tend to do the oral only cycles. They know that there are better options available and are going to use the safer, more effective methods to meet there goals. That usually involves other delivery types, specifically injections. So the irony here is that the very people that can make the most out of an oral only cycle don't use them while oral only cycles are the first cycles that the rest of the people tend to look at. They are the ones that don't want to inject, or rub themselves with smelly gels, or jest generally not willing to do what it takes. Newbies that are dedicated generally get talked into doing better things (or just learn). It really isn't to be wondered that people look down on orally only cycle.

    However oral only cycles can be ran with success. And there are times when they are desirable. Anyone that has to travel should appreciate this. The key to success with them is four fold. First you must run a real full cycle. By that I mean you have to eat right, train right, get your sleep, and avoid taking shortcuts. In other words you need to be dedicated, the steroids are meant to help you along, not to be used as a crutch. Second is you cannot skip on your ancillaries, you need them to make this work right. This means using the appropriate anti estrogens, AI and/or SERMs. Third DO NOT SKIMP ON THE PCT. I don't know why but some people seam to think that they do not get shut down. Not true, PCT is as important as if you were running test. Fourth your supplements will make a big difference as well.
    The reason that dbol is on this short list is that its cheap and produces good gains (if you do it right you will only have a little water retention and so the massive gains people think of with dbol will not happen, but the gains will be real) and is easy to get. I have seen some people run it for 8 weeks but I would not go past 6 myself, just no reason to push it. You do need to run an AI with one so be sure to check out the board sponsors. It is of course better to run with test but it is still an option.

    Now, about making your own were going to assume that you’re new and you don’t have a powder source. Not a problem, yet, because we have cattle pellets. I am not sure how much longer they are going to be legal but for the time being they are. For information on conversions go here: http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...threadid=15119 . now as we are looking for cheap we are going to stick to the test, the fina isn’t bad though but not good for a newbie. If you want the fina make it an inject able. The test is also better as an inject able but it bothers a lot of people. You will need one box of Synovex-H about $80, one bottle of lye about 6 bucks, two bottles of heat (methyl alcohol) for $2, coffee filters or better yet dust mask for ~ $3, one bottle of DMSO gel (get from DMSO.com) for about 7 dollars, and some scented oil from where ever to hid the DMSO smell for around 5 buck and your ready for your Tran dermal test. Total cost for the trans dermal is around $105. Assuming that you have 14 (15 is avg) grams worth of test base powder and you want 500mg (about 75mg a day) a week with a 25% absorbs ion rate that is 150mg worth applied twice a day or 300mg applied a day that gives you around 6 to 7 weeks worth by which time you will have had your fill of rubbing your self with this shit. Still even adding the Nolvadex (don’t forget this) your still at around 140 dollars for a 6 week cycle. Not bad at all.

    For inject able test base modify the above by adding in the cost of the BA, vials, filters and oil. And don’t forget darts. The cheapest and best place to get the chemicals and oil is http://www.lemelange.com/ but the amounts you get are large, for instance they sell BA by the quart for around 11 bucks but while it is USP grade it is not sterile and 100 times what you need. Again I would look to your board sponsor. Now we are going to play it safe and say that you want 50mg/ml of test base. Because you don’t lose 75% of your gear when injecting it isn’t necessary to buy a whole box so you can save money here if you want but it is kind of hard to get it by the box because it is so cheap, and it usually ends up like 12 bucks a cart rather then 8 bucks a cart so I would go ahead and buy the box. So we are going to need 1 box of Synovex-H for ~80 bucks, one bottle of lye about 6 bucks, two bottles of heat (methyl alcohol) for $2, coffee filters or better yet dust mask for ~ $3, 4 .2 micron filters for about 24 dollars, one quart of grape seed oil for $8.50, one 16oz bottle of BA ( you can also use this for cleaning so it isn’t a waste) for 10 dollars, one 16oz bottle of BB for 10 dollars, dart special usually 100 set up syringes with extra needles for about $35, and 10 10cc syringes for the filtering $6. Also you need 4 pre sealed sterile vial for around 8 dollars. This is for doing 3 50ml vials. The total for this is ~$190 but if you want to convert the entire amount of test just double your darts, vials and add 3 more filters for a total of 250 dollars. If you need more Nolvadex and you will then you need to add another 30 bucks for a total 280 dollars. So every 3 50ml is 100 doses of 75mg (1.5 cc) or about 14 weeks. As you can see this is easily scaleable if you want less. And you’re talking about 3 ten week cycles that cost less then 100 dollars a cycle.

    Please note the following, I always include one extra of everything. If you don’t do this you will regreat it. Vials break, filters blow out or clog up, or you will spill something. Do read up on the proper conversion methoeds, remember you going to be injecting this stuff in your body, you want it clean and safe. It will be if you do if right.

    If you want to add fina to this it runs about 32 dollars a cart (2 grams raw, 1.8 converted) and you will need at least 2 carts so there is 64 dollars. Assuming that you want to run 75mg of test a day and 50mg of fina you then will need to make the inject able 50mg test base and 33.33mg of fina per cc for a 1.5 cc dose of 75/50. That is 3.333grams for 150ml. That doesn’t’ leave you any room for error so be careful. Just make the test like you would but add the fina powder in with the test. And its still pretty cheap even with the fina.

    Now if you have a powder source then all kinds of possibilities open up here. It’s cheap, safer in some was then even human grade gear (powders are usually cheap enough that nobody bothers faking them) and gives you great flexibility in what you do. Just apply the above to powder instead of pellets and be careful not to overdue it. If your making orals for powder there is a easy to do recipe for putting orals in chocolate, this includes the Nolvadex and such. Go read it here: http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...ight=chocolate or do a search on capping. Lots of info about using powders. By far the cheapest and best.
    Last edited by Skyefire; 12-15-05, 12:57 AM.

  • #2
    awesome post

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    • #3
      Yeah, good post. The pellet conversions are kinda labor intensive but I actually enjoy the whole process....

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      • #4
        Skyefire, awesome post. Excuse my ignorance but can you make test cyp with the pellets? Basiclly adding an ester.

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        • #5
          nice

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mr athlete
            Skyefire, awesome post. Excuse my ignorance but can you make test cyp with the pellets? Basiclly adding an ester.
            yes but finding someone to sell you the organic acids or anahydrides is harder then finding the powder itself.

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            • #7
              Personally, I wouldn't attempt a synovex conversion. Then again, I've never had a problem finding the gear I needed. I guess if I really wanted to do a cycle and I didn't have a source I would do a fina conversion and run tren by itself (which is actually a good cutting cycle from my experience).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Control
                Personally, I wouldn't attempt a synovex conversion.
                Why? Because it's hard to get test prop? or you don't want test base?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SloppyJo
                  Why? Because it's hard to get test prop? or you don't want test base?

                  No, because of the estradiol. I'd be too paranoid about that shit making it through the filtering process somehow (I'm kinda hit-or-miss with homebrew). Plus, test base and prop are cheap to buy and I have a really good source. With the quality UG labs that are out there now, it just seems like too much hassle.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Control
                    No, because of the estradiol. I'd be too paranoid about that shit making it through the filtering process somehow (I'm kinda hit-or-miss with homebrew). Plus, test base and prop are cheap to buy and I have a really good source. With the quality UG labs that are out there now, it just seems like too much hassle.
                    that is true if you have access to them. but the concern over estradiol is the reason I always use the lye metheod. the only way your going to get a screw up is if you forget to use it the lye. there is a group on the estradiol that is somewhat acidic and the sodium hydroxide salts it out, making the EB water soluble. this is tried and true methoed here,

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Skyefire
                      that is true if you have access to them. but the concern over estradiol is the reason I always use the lye metheod. the only way your going to get a screw up is if you forget to use it the lye. there is a group on the estradiol that is somewhat acidic and the sodium hydroxide salts it out, making the EB water soluble. this is tried and true methoed here,

                      Holy shit, I just read the instructions for the lye method and there's no way I'd ever try that. LOL, I'd end up killing myself. I managed to fuck up a simple powder conversion (I'll never know what went wrong with that damn batch of test E), so there's no way I'm injecting some shit I made with lye and HEET....

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