The only three steroids you need....

[Stonecold54]

Are you refering to Turinobol? If so, what are the health risks of this drug compared to tren? Never had the opportunity to use it.

well its a 17AA oral so it needs to be cycled according to the persons reaction to them. I have never had elavated liver values so I usually run 6-8 weeks of orals. its much less harsh than tren on the body I would imagine.

[iridiumblue]

I pretty much stick to those three steriods only now. Wasted alot of money on different AS and those three seem to be the best bang for the buck. I like parabolan better than Tren enan. for reason of Tren enan. hurts like hell, IMO!

[iridiumblue]

Hey Shortz, FYI on Turinibol.


OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposi-tion, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dos-ages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is I 7-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.

[coffee-guy]

Hey Shortz, FYI on Turinibol.

That's good information but I would like to know where it came from before I save it...

[Control]

hey control...have you ever used TBOL? I just did a run with it and it was quite amazing (and this is after 7 years of cycling)...dbol strength and pumps without the bloat. I loved it. and I don't even split up my doses in the day so its not a big deal. I just take 30mg in the morning. good stuff.

Are you talking about British Dragon turanabol? If so, yes I have taken it, and I liked it. I haven't seen it around recently though, but I'd probably try it again if my source gets it.

[Anaholic]

BTW, I'm not knocking GH or slin. If you can get a hold of some legit GH and you can afford it, you can get great results from it. Slin works really well for some too, I think the reason I don't get drastic results from it is because I'm fairly insulin resistant. I discovered that when I attempted suicide. I took a dose of insulin that would kill most people and obviously, I lived. I talked with a guy one time who said that he didn't see the point in taking large amounts of gear if you're not taking GH and slin because the gains you can make would be limited by your bodies natural insulin and GH. Kinda like if you took a car and replaced the engine with one that had way more horsepower but you still had the same traction and the same transmission. Something like that is what he said......

I agree with this statement.

[Stonecold54]

Are you talking about British Dragon turanabol? If so, yes I have taken it, and I liked it. I haven't seen it around recently though, but I'd probably try it again if my source gets it.

thats what I am taking too...the BD stuff. I think its the only pill pressed kind so far.

[go Yankees]

what about info for girls, like the only steroids girls need? just trying to expand my knowledge and the discusson...it seems their cycles are minimal doses of fairly weak androgens (at least with fitness and figure)...

[Shibby]

I think that's a tough one to layout similar info on. Since steriods are for building muscle and you are adding more of the male hormone, you wouldn't want a women to read something and really mess herself up. Now if the woman wants to build more muscle, then it depends on what level she is trying to achieve. Say for comps, does she want to do bodybuilding, fitness, figure... You aren't going to use the same things or near the same dosages.

[meat12]

Nice post control

[Mr I]

well its a 17AA oral so it needs to be cycled according to the persons reaction to them. I have never had elavated liver values so I usually run 6-8 weeks of orals. its much less harsh than tren on the body I would imagine.

I tried OT a couple of times, I was impressed with th strength increases but it isn't anyway near the effect of tren

[Control]

what about info for girls, like the only steroids girls need? just trying to expand my knowledge and the discusson...it seems their cycles are minimal doses of fairly weak androgens (at least with fitness and figure)...

Honestly I've never seen a woman that took steroids and didn't look like a man. I know some women take var or whatever and still look like women, but I've only met the ones that like looking like men and take pretty much everything we take, just smaller doses.

[Bouncer]

bump this, good thread.

[ROCKETW19]

very nice post control. im like you i like studys and all that but bottom line is real life use is what im lookin for. i also agree with 99% of your post test,tren,EQ is and always will be my cycle but i use GH with great results. i usally run long cycles so i base them on test EQ and rotating tren with some kinda of oral(anavar,d-bol,a-bombs) every 6 weeks.
there is already a test E tren E combo that hurts like a bitch.

Since this thread got bumped, I might add that I no longer use tren or EQ Just simple test 500mgs oops cant forget the GH still use that also but only 2ius a day now.
Not saying test tren EQ isnt a great cycle just that I feel that I dont need it anymore. I have learned tons on this board about diet. Diet to me will give great gains with just test.

[Gator_Mclusky]

Interesting but everyone gets popped in pro sports for Winstrol!!!! Ive been using it off and on for 20 yrs with no joint pain.

Everyones different though.....

Test
EQ
Winstrol
Tren...........

Beautiful cycle!!!!!

gator