Ugh.. Highschool steroid use stats?

[Puma]

Now, I guess its possible I live in a tunnel or something, and I just don't see what is going on around me. However, I find this stat almost impossible to believe:

Most experts estimate that 5 to 6% of the total population of high school students has abused steroids. That’s about 1 million of our children each year. And abusers are not all male athletes


Taken from http://www.taylorhooton.org/news.asp

Did you know anyone in HS taking steroids? I knew one guy, it was totally obvious, and that's in in my entire HS (of about 2000 students). Now, I realize that this was 10 years ago, but your telling me that I could now walk into the HS across the street from me, and out of 100 kids (of which 50 are going to be women) 5 or 6 of them are going to be or has been on steroids?

Shit, I go to a hard core muscle gym, know tons of people on steroids, and honestly, if I wanted to buy juice tommorow, I don't know where I would get it (and have it tommorow). I am sure I could ask someone there and find a source, but where in the hell are these kids getting this stuff? I KNOW nobody I know would sell this shit to teenage HS kids (espcially girls) so where is it coming from?

I don't know, this number just seems almost impossible to rationalize to me. What are the usage numbers for the country as a whole? Or for the population from 18-35 years old? I can't imagine 5-6%? That would put steroid use way higher then cocaine, heroin, and most other rec drugs (not pot). I probably only really know about 25 people using steroids, where the hell are the rest of them?

And, if this is the case (that 5% of the US is juicing) where are the bodies? That's millions of people, where are all the deaths; we should be seeing them in every hospital every day with that kind of usage.

[Shibby]

I'll tell you that most rec drug dealers can get AS if they don't already sell them. On top of that any girl can say they are getting it for this guy and these young huslers couldn't care less who they are giving the stuff to as long as they are getting money.

[Bouncer]

Taylor Hooten's father was actually on this site at one time. He was a very nice man actually and I feel very sorry for his lose. I just dont like the fact that they totally blame his sons death on steroids when there were obveously other issues with this situation.

As for kids in high school taking steroids. Well to be honest I knew about 20 kids using steroids and I was one of them. lol.

I totally disagree with anyone under the age of 21 using steroids. Steroids, if abused can be very dangerous.

[Puma]

Not you Bouncer?? :)

How many kids in your school? Do the stats seem right to you? If you throw out the girls (I know they are not taking steroids; maybe Clen, but no way are they taking anything else), that would put it at about 10% of the men (to get a 5-6% total pop). That seems insane to me. 1 out of 10?

Really? I just sent him an e-mail; I tried to be nice, but he has to realize that tough testing just pushes people to more exotic and undectable shit. Do we really want these kids taking IGF, HGH, Slin and Suspension? If the stats are right, they are going to do it no matter what; and if you take away the "safer" choices you know they are going to whatever is available (just like I did with M1T, and Tren, I know first hand).

I just hope that the people like this will be able to see that what they are doing is both futile, but also hurts far more people then it helps. They are the people that keep the "steroids are deadly" myth alive, and keep all of us on the wrong side of the law.

Taylor Hooten's father was actually on this site at one time. He was a very nice man actually and I feel very sorry for his lose. I just dont like the fact that they totally blame his sons death on steroids when there were obveously other issues with this situation.

As for kids in high school taking steroids. Well to be honest I knew about 20 kids using steroids and I was one of them. lol.

I totally disagree with anyone under the age of 21 using steroids. Steroids, if abused can be very dangerous.

[Puma]

I have read it too, and yes the stats are horriable. But is any of it TRUE? Where are these girls? Where are all these jacked kids? I have not seen a HS kid with much of a build in a very long time. I see them come in and play in my gym sometimes, but nobody who is juiced, that's for sure (or they are injecting olive oil, which I guess is also possible).

I just don't believe it; I want to see the surveys/research that supports this. I don't know one HS kid who can spell Anadrol, let alone tell me how to use it intelligently.

I didn't read the article, but I've read that girls as young as 12 are taking it. Surely their parents would observe changes in these young children.
Those statistics are horrible.....also a great example of why they're cracking down

[Bouncer]

ya, its seems a little exagerated. i didnt know any girls on anything.

[Motorcycleguy]

You can gather research and twist it to make the point that you want it to make, and this is what I figure is being done with this 5-6% of HS kids.

[pockethercules]

JMO

I was in a situation where I was around High School sports my whole life. My dad was the Head football coach and athletic director where I went to school. I live in an area were there is four large schools. I pretty much new everyone, as I was a good athelete in several different sports and of course you become friends with people from other schools. I was around the practice field an locker room for the first 18 years of my life and I only new of one person that took steroids and he was someone that moved in from out of state.
Now I do know several that tried it after high school but not during high school. Out of the other schools, it was rumored that one guy from a rival school was taking steroids. Now I know things can change since I graduated 10 years ago. If you put the numbers to it 18 years times 4 schools = 72 seasons combined for the four schools. I would say that the average team had 70 players but that would have carry over every year. so lets say that every year you have 28 new kids. So 72x28= 2,016 football players only not counting other sports which I never heard of any steroids in at the time that means in the eighteen years that I was around high school sports my guess is that .09% of football players in our area were using steroids. If you added other sports like track, baseball, basketball and then women sports. Hell you would not even come up with a percentage. If 5-6 % of all high school atheletes are usiing AAS, boy times sure have changed in the past 10 years. :hmmm: I sure do find that hard to believe!

[coffee-guy]

The research doesn't point to the kids using it "intelligently"....therein lies the problem...

I have to agree here.

I grew up playing sports and then I started lifting weights once I hit Junior High. I went to one of the largest high schools (on one campus - at the time - I'm not sure about now) in the entire U.S. and there were 9 other very large high schools in the same city. I have to say that once I hit the 10th grade there was a VERY large amount of football players with access to steroids. I would go as far to say that even the football coaching staff played a huge role in the accessibility but that was just what my source hinted at.

Creatine was still fairly new at the time (at least to the mainstream public) and the football staff actually bought enough for all of the players who wanted to use it. We didn't pay a dime - they also knew quite a bit about it's abilities and uses - in other words they didn't have us doing "loading phases" etc and were very knowledgeable. We had one of the best off-season training regimens and we went to state every year that I played (we only won 1 of the 3 times we went but that's still pretty damn good IMO).

As for the percentage of players "using" I could probably ramble off 50 people that I knew who used and that was just kids I hung with. Unfortunately, there wasn't really anyone that was very educated about cylces - most people were pyramiding doses etc and I don't know of anyone using PCT. However, there were enough people using them wrong that everyone thought that they were using them right.

I'm not sure exactly what I'm getting at other than...

1. The access is there if you know where to go (the best I ever saw was QV and Denkall - never anything Human Grade but it WAS available).

2. The number of HS kids "using" all depends on where they go to school, what city they live in, and what kids they hang out with (I always hung out with older kids who hung out with older kids)

3. To reiterate what FB said - "The research doesn't point to the kids using it "intelligently"....therein lies the problem..."

[metalmarty]

Not to sound sexist, but where the hell do twelve year old girls get the idea that steroids are going to help them? When I was that age the schools and media had the boys scared to death of aas, let alone girls wanting to get huge and die.

[rude]

I knew a lot of kids taking steroids, and I do mean a lot. Sad thing is they still looked like shit. lol, I remember once one guy from a class asked me what I was taking and I told him just some protein, and he told me, "naw not me, I dont take protein, im all natural" like protein is a steroid :rolleyes:

[daf2]

the statistics must be exagerated, especially for the girls. Out of my high school's graduating class of over 300 males, i knew of maybe 2 who used steroids...

[mindstar]

I seriously don't know many people at all who have ever used anabolics out of HS, let alone when I was in HS...I think though, that HS sports are treated a bit differently in Canada and there may be lass pressure on athletes here. That is a messed up statistic though, especially as a HS teacher.

[Puma]

Maybe that's it, if you look in the "mega" high schools, your definately going to find more access to everything. My school was big, but I am sure nothing on the scale of yours (and it was rural).

Anyway, I still think that the stats are flawed, however, there is one thing I would like to say. I hope these kids are getting this shit on the Internet (using what credit card??) because if not, whoever is the adult selling it to them needs to die.

Come on, there is not much money in juice, and the harm that can be done to young people can be irreversable. Not sure that its worse then selling coke or any other drug in HS, but I just don't like to think about the guys I know selling to a little kid. I just can't see it happen.

I have to agree here.

I grew up playing sports and then I started lifting weights once I hit Junior High. I went to one of the largest high schools (on one campus - at the time - I'm not sure about now) in the entire U.S. and there were 9 other very large high schools in the same city. I have to say that once I hit the 10th grade there was a VERY large amount of football players with access to steroids. I would go as far to say that even the football coaching staff played a huge role in the accessibility but that was just what my source hinted at.

Creatine was still fairly new at the time (at least to the mainstream public) and the football staff actually bought enough for all of the players who wanted to use it. We didn't pay a dime - they also knew quite a bit about it's abilities and uses - in other words they didn't have us doing "loading phases" etc and were very knowledgeable. We had one of the best off-season training regimens and we went to state every year that I played (we only won 1 of the 3 times we went but that's still pretty damn good IMO).

As for the percentage of players "using" I could probably ramble off 50 people that I knew who used and that was just kids I hung with. Unfortunately, there wasn't really anyone that was very educated about cylces - most people were pyramiding doses etc and I don't know of anyone using PCT. However, there were enough people using them wrong that everyone thought that they were using them right.

I'm not sure exactly what I'm getting at other than...

1. The access is there if you know where to go (the best I ever saw was QV and Denkall - never anything Human Grade but it WAS available).

2. The number of HS kids "using" all depends on where they go to school, what city they live in, and what kids they hang out with (I always hung out with older kids who hung out with older kids)

3. To reiterate what FB said - "The research doesn't point to the kids using it "intelligently"....therein lies the problem..."

[coffee-guy]

Maybe that's it, if you look in the "mega" high schools, your definately going to find more access to everything. My school was big, but I am sure nothing on the scale of yours (and it was rural).

Anyway, I still think that the stats are flawed, however, there is one thing I would like to say. I hope these kids are getting this shit on the Internet (using what credit card??) because if not, whoever is the adult selling it to them needs to die.

Come on, there is not much money in juice, and the harm that can be done to young people can be irreversable. Not sure that its worse then selling coke or any other drug in HS, but I just don't like to think about the guys I know selling to a little kid. I just can't see it happen.

I'm sure everything's more apparent if you're in the right place at the right time in a "mega" school.

I too believe the stats have to be flawed - I just don't think it's a completely futile attempt for someone to try and keep drugs out of kids hands. I know that if I hadn't ran with the wrong crowd I would probably be in a much different place right now (even though sometimes I don't always think I would be in a better place - i.e. I have a nice life with a great family etc).

As for "adults" selling to kids - my experience was that I hung out with Seniors etc (when I was a Freshman etc) and the Seniors I knew hung out with college brats that had a ton of money and were into all sorts of stupid shit. The college kids would supply the Seniors and it trickled downhill.......