Hcg: During? After? confused

[bigfish]

I'm confused as hell. I read in one long post from a doctor saying you should run 250 ius twice a week of hcg during your cycle so you it'll be easier to get your nuts back.

(something about not letting the horse out of the barn, rather than letting him out and having to find him 3 counties away. that post)

But almost every other post says nothing about running hcg during cycle, but rather after in pct along with nolva and/or clomid.

My question is will I be overdoing if I run during and after. Or should I just stick with one of the other and why? :hmmm: :hmmm:

[Ashop]

i only run during cycle because it has negative impact on HPTA iF used during PCT.

[TripleXx]

Hcg can be very pricy so i know that some people like to start thiers midway. The reason for taking it during is to prevent testicular atrophy. But to answer your question i would just run it during and then follow up with a spotless PCT.

[Skyefire]

I'm confused as hell. I read in one long post from a doctor saying you should run 250 ius twice a week of hcg during your cycle so you it'll be easier to get your nuts back.

(something about not letting the horse out of the barn, rather than letting him out and having to find him 3 counties away. that post)

But almost every other post says nothing about running hcg during cycle, but rather after in pct along with nolva and/or clomid.

My question is will I be overdoing if I run during and after. Or should I just stick with one of the other and why? :hmmm: :hmmm:

just stick with the during (swales ). what he is telling you is that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. in other words that if you use a little HCG over time to keep your nuts from shrinking that you will not have to play catch up at the end of your cycle.

[ROCKETW19]

I'm confused as hell. I read in one long post from a doctor saying you should run 250 ius twice a week of hcg during your cycle so you it'll be easier to get your nuts back.

(something about not letting the horse out of the barn, rather than letting him out and having to find him 3 counties away. that post)

But almost every other post says nothing about running hcg during cycle, but rather after in pct along with nolva and/or clomid.

My question is will I be overdoing if I run during and after. Or should I just stick with one of the other and why? :hmmm: :hmmm:

thats the way i just ran it and it worked great for me. 250ius 2 times a wek

[Friggemall]

during is the best way as skyefire stated above. It's not that expensive and you'll be happier in the long run/end. And while I'm at it, Alin is correct, hcg is NOT part of pct, especially if you are running clomid. Some do it 500ui for 10 consectutive days 5 days prior to starting pct. Do it during.

[bigfish]

This is the first time i'll be using hcg so I want to make sure I know everything. You're suppose to shoot in your stomach right? Any particular place ? And is it American made? (obviously haven't gotten any yet)

[Skyefire]

This is the first time i'll be using hcg so I want to make sure I know everything. You're suppose to shoot in your stomach right? Any particular place ? And is it American made? (obviously haven't gotten any yet)

shoot any way you want, I do IM. any place within reason. everybody makes it and its all good.

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a glycoprotein hormone that is produced from a sterile preparation of placental glucoprotein urine of expectant women. In other words it is an extracted out of piss. This is a must have in any long cycle or cycles with highly suppressive gear (Nandrolone Decanoate, Trenbolone and the like). Its main function is to prevent/reverse testicular atrophy cause by the suppression of the HTPA and the Leydig cells by mimicking the leutenizing hormones. In plan English it keeps your boys both happy and large. It does NOT reverse the suppression of testosterone production but use of HCG will speed up the process considerable. A full PCT routine is still necessary though. Again HCG is best used in a preventative manner.

To reconstitute HCG you must mix it with bacteriostatic water. How this is package depends on what brand your are buying. The most common is a 5,000iu amp that must be mixed and placed in a new separate sterile vial (we don’t use all of it at once). It usually comes with a vial of about 1 to 1.5 cc of bacteriostatic water. It also comes as two vials, one vial with no water. There is a 1500iu versions of the above as well. When mixing your HCG remember that is the stated shelf life is 8 weeks (60 days), it will last longer, maybe up to 16 weeks but it will louse potency. A good rule of thumb is not to mix up any more then you want to use for 8 to 10 weeks. If that isn’t available then increase the dosage as the cycle progress to compensate (note: not everyone agrees that this is an acceptable practice, you will have to use your own judgment here.).

Directions. This is my method of doing this so other may differ but this I think is the most accurate and simplest way of doing this. First make sure you have your supplies ready, you need one 5 or 10ml vial, at least 2ml of bacteriostatic water for 5,000iu or 1ml for ever 2,500iu you have, one regular sterile syringe with needle (20 to 25 gauge 1 inch is fine), a file for scoring the amp, alcohol swabs, and some sterile gauze (I am retentive about being sterile, a clean cloth would work). First use the alcohol swabs to clean off top of your vial and amp. Take your file and use around the breaking point on the neck until you have worked 360 degrees around it. Wipe again with the alcohol pad and wrap the top with the gauze (this keeps you from cutting yourself) and break the amp. Take your syringe and draw up 1cc of bacteriostatic water (make sure you wiped the top of the vial with alcohol) and inject it into the amp. Do not let the needle get dirty. Gently swirl the water around until all the powder is dissolved. Use the same syringe and suck up all the HCG solution and inject it into the sterile vial. Then using the same syringe draw up another cc of bacteriostatic water and inject it into the amp again. Swirl the water around for a minute then draw it all up and inject it into the sterile vial. You now have your solution made at 2,500iu per milliliter. This is convent because 250iu is easily measured by the 10iu mark on a insulin syringe. To change the concentration simple adjust the amount of water. For instance if you wanted 250iu for each .25cc then you would use 5ml of water.

If you have your HCG in vials then odds are it will hold 2cc so the above is unnecessary. Simple inject 2cc of the bacteriostatic water into the vial (making sure that you clean the tops with alcohol).


Here are some sample ways that HCG should be ran. For a light cycle (no more then ten) weeks with moderate suppressing steroids HCG is not really needed. If you want to use HCG anyway (doesn’t hurt) or are running longer then 10 weeks or using suppressive steroids 250iu of HCG can be ran twice a week for the last ten weeks ending just before you start you PCT routine. This will speed recovery. If your using suppressive gear for longer then ten weeks then 2 amps (10,000iu) is recommended. Then you can run e 250iu 3 times a week for the last 13 weeks ending on your start of PCT. Or you can run it 250iu twice a week from the beginning of the cycle switching to 3 time a week at the point that you can use the remaining HCG supply up just before your PCT. For example, if your running a cycle for 14 weeks you could run the HCG at 250iu 3 times a week starting week 3 and ending week 15, just before you start PCT week 16. Or you could run 250iu twice a week for weeks 1 to 4, then 3 times a week for weeks 5 to 15. This way you use up all your HCG (no waste).

[Friggemall]

:) I went looking for that skye and crashed my browser in the process. When people ask that article by skyefire is where I send them.

[Narkissos]

i only run during cycle because it has negative impact on HPTA iF used during PCT.

The negative impact on the HPTA isn't due to the Hcg itself.. but rather the consumate increase in estrogen.

Anthony Roberts (hooker) has proposed a new PCT hypothesis of late: using Nolva; hcg; and Aromasin as the sole, synergistic PCT stack.

Check it out

[Narkissos]

The negative impact on the HPTA isn't due to the Hcg itself.. but rather the consumate increase in estrogen.

Anthony Roberts (hooker) has proposed a new PCT hypothesis of late: using Nolva; hcg; and Aromasin as the sole, synergistic PCT stack.

Check it out

Here: http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=28667