Q about Primo and Tren

[Lmg2701]

all right I can understand if not approve. Listen read that link I gave you and post your diet and stuff here. BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU TAKE, and not just for health reasons but also detection times for the drugs. Deca would be ideal except it can be detected for 18 months, it can show up for as long as 2 years.

Detection times for AAS

Boldenone Undecyclenate 4-5 months
Clen 4-5 Days
Ephedrin 6-10 Days
Halo 2 months
Proviron 5 weeks
D-Bol 5 weeks
Methamphetamin 6-10 Days
Primo Depot 4-5 weeks
Deca 18 months
Nandrolon Phenylprop 12 months
Anavar 3 weeks
Anadrol 2 months
Winny oral 3 weeks
Winny inj 2 months
Test cyp 3 months
Test enat 3 months
Sustanon 3 months
Test Prop 2-3 weeks
Andriol 1 week
Tremolon Acet 4-5 weeks
Test supspenison No metabolites. t/e should
be back to normal in days.

Factors which influence the detection times


Metabolism
Fluid intake
Tolerance to the drug
Frequency of intake
Duration of intake
Body fat
Potency of drug
Dosage

here is what I would do (I still wouldn't do it at 19)
40mg dbol ed weeks 1 to 6
50mg proviron ed weeks 1 to 6 (or other AI)
600mg test cyp weeks 1 to 12
10mg nolvadex ed for weeks 1 to 13
PCT starting week 14 with 40mg nolvadex ed for two weeks then 20mg ed for another 2 weeks


if you want EQ would also be a good choice here but be careful as it has a longer detection time 6 months to be safe. If you can get a shorter ester of it that would be better.
Same as above but add 4 weeks
ether 1.8 grams eq week 1
or 1.2 grams eq weeks 1 and 2
600mg eq weekly for weeks up to 15

Check out that diet......I know he can put on the weight he wants without the AS and by just fixing the diet.

[Dickerson65]

Wow, if that calculator is right, im like 2000-2500 calories to low. I geussin thats a huge part of it but i dunno if i can eat that much(of the stuff im eating) what kind (if any) carbs should i incorporate?

I have always stayed at about 20g a day wich is only a few hundred calories, is this too low, or will adding carbs just make me gain unwanted weight in the form of fat?

I know some people say u have to have them, even in a keto type diet, but wont they take me out of Ketosis? Do i even want to stay in ketosis to biuld muscle? I test my ketone levels in urine, and when im on this diet they are through the roof...

Thanks again fo all the helpful info

[Skyefire]

Check out that diet......I know he can put on the weight he wants without the AS and by just fixing the diet.

not arguing that at all, but he has pretty well stated that he was going to and that being the case I would rather he had the info he needed to do it right. 19 is still too young and he runs a risk of lossing bone growth here.

really am not sure about that cal though. but I have a low metabolism though.

[Dickerson65]

On the notation of bone growth i beleive that fully, b/c two of my good bros that started juicin in between 9th and 10th grade (16yrs old) one is 5'8'' and his dad is 6'2'' and the other is like 5'9''-5'10'' and his dad is like 6'0'',

but do u really think at 19, (20 in 2 months), i really need to be concerned with pre-maturely stopping my growth? My dad is 6'6" and my mom is 4'11" so im pretty sure im stuck right where im at.(6'0"-6"1")

What other possible side effects might a 19 yr old expirience that a 24 or 25 year old wouldnt?

[Skyefire]

just because you have reached your hight doesn't meant that your finished growing. with, jaw, ribs (why they break harder when your 25 rather then 19), inmovable joints and such. also bone thickness is an issue although not as much

as for other sides try anything to do with hormones. your system isn't fully matured so there is always an increased risk of permement damage to you compared to someone that is 25.

or an irreversable testcular atrophey is alway a possiblity.

[Lmg2701]

Post your diet in the nurtition section and explain what your goals are and what your stats are. You'll get a lot more responses as far as diet in that forum.

And yes, as I figured you are not eating nearly enough. Post your diet in there and I'll look at it over the weekend......

[coffee-guy]

Post your diet in the nurtition section and explain what your goals are and what your stats are. You'll get a lot more responses as far as diet in that forum.

Trust everyone here bro - just think - you could make the same gains that all of your team members are making with steroids - only you will still be natural...

This will give you a much better base for the years to come when you actually do start cycling....